Thanks Cheryl. I will take at look at pinespc. Perhaps it is time for me to
leave tables behind.

How limiting do you find IE support of CSS-P? I've read the articles -- 
which just gave ammunition to my avoidance of CSS-P--that explain how to
work around the limitation of IE 5 and 6. Do you find this to be a problem?
Or have you just developed a procedure that allows you to live with the
situation. I understand the biggest issue is with specifying  *width*. Are
there other potholes to avoid? Or in practice is the IE5/6 noncompliance not
so much of an issue?

Janet
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cheryl D. Wise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 9:08 PM
Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Please Help--Getting my Web Design Out of the Box


> I haven't created a site in over a year that used anything other than
CSS-P
> for layout. Some of the sites are visited heavily by NN 4.x browsers. Yes,
> it limits you a bit but you can have a site that is streamlined
attractive,
> works in NN 4.x and uses nothing but css for positioning.
>
> Take a look at http://pinespc.org. Works in every browser out there
> including Lynx. May not look as nice in Lynx but hey that is a pure text
> browser. I will admit there is one page that displays differently in NN
4.x
> than in compliant browsers and that is the preschool page. Some of the
> background images are hidden from NN 4.x because it doesn't handle that
type
> of positioning well. Not a big deal since there was a difference of
opinion
> between some of the client's board on whether the pictures should be used
or
> not.
>
> Very little reason that a simple site of the type our clients need can't
use
> css for layout.
>
> Cheryl D. Wises
> Certified Professional Web Developer
> MS-MVP-FrontPage
> www.wiserways.com
> mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 713.353.0139 Office



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