Hello, I've been doing a lot of javascript stuff recently with http://www.pretendpaper.com/
So far javascript has been 90% of the time I have spent on the site. At the begining I was using dynapi for some javascript stuff. Which is quite an ok javascript library. However as the abstraction was really big fixing the many bugs for new things I was doing was harder. If you can live with what you get with dynapi, it is a really good library which can go a long way towards making code compatible to even NS 4.0. So definitely look at DynAPI, as well as the quirksmode, and jsolait sites for javascript libraries and ideas. I have a bunch of javascript stuff which is not on the pretendpaper.com live site because it crashes browsers hard. So far I have crashed most browsers many times. Most recently a safari crash which made the browser unusable on that computer despite best efforts to wipe the cache, and all settings :( Then there are event timing issues, which are all different with each browser. I haven't quite figured out all the work arounds with different versions of IE yet. I am also forced to use iframes for scrolling at the moment. As it has been quite hard to get javascript scrolling of layers working nicely even across the latest versions of safari, firefox and ie. It might be one place where I will need different implementations for different browsers. Once the DHTML version of the site is working nicely with the latest browsers I am going to do a static version of the site. The static version will be very light on css(which is also very crashable), and pretty much no js/flash. I am using xmlrpc for the python -> javascript comunication. With jsolait. This could be swapped out with jsonrpc later if needed. As xmlrpc is a little bit slow with js. jsonrpc doesn't have to parse xml with javascript, so it is lots faster. xmlrpc can also be used to talk to flash, as well as lots of other libraries easily like C++/php etc. Exporting stuff later from python is simple... exporting things to SOAP/JSONRPC/Pyro will be quite trivial. Javascript is a really nice language. It is well worth learning for people doing web development, as there are so many good things you can do with it. You can also use it within flash too. As flash actionscript is pretty much javascript with a different api. However the biggest problem is still working around the bugs, and different implementations behaviours. Cheers, Rene Dudfield e: "@".join( reversed(['madecollective.com', 'rene']) ) w: http://www.madecollective.com/ w: http://www.pretendpaper.com/ For creative, and technical services contact us @ made. _______________________________________________ Web-SIG mailing list Web-SIG@python.org Web SIG: http://www.python.org/sigs/web-sig Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/web-sig/archive%40mail-archive.com
