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On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Gour <g...@atmarama.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:17:04 -0400
> Richard Vézina
> <ml.richard.vez...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't say re-invent the wheel. If you have a couple of clients, you
> > will re-use app, so it get tested overtime.
>
> Why not contributing such codebase to the web2py community, so that
> others can built on that.
>
> > A basic html page is more then enough for greate number of small
> > business because of lack of vision maybe or just because there core
> > business doesn't required online tool.
>
> That's true and I also plan to use some SSG (static site generator) for
> such use cases, but, fortunately, there are plenty of them and they're
> free. :-)
>
> >  I setup many CMS for many organisation since 2000 and most of the
> >  time the client where calling me to update stuff on the site even if
> >  I give them a formation to show how easy it was to update or add more
> >  content on their site. That why I say CMS is dead. It will never
> >  really reach it objective for small business.
>
> There are tons of sites out built with WordPress, Joomla, Drupal,
> Concre5, CMS Made Simple, SilverStripe, MODx...(not mentioning ones with
> Ruby-powered CMS-es) and I simply do not believe that most of them are
> updated by developers.
>
> > CSM is good for mid to large organisation, but most of the time they
> > will build their own solution with a framework today...
>
> Here I also believe that most of such organization does not care what is
> used to run their site as long as ot provides what they want, so it
> depends on the agency/developer doing the work.
>
> Here (https://www.django-cms.org/en/case-studies/mercedes-benz/) you can
> see how the agency used e.g. Django-CMS to build the site for Mercedes
> Benz. So, if it's good-enough for Mercedes Benz to have web site built
> upon open-source Django framework and 'general' CMS, why not based on
> web2py and appropriate CMS?
>
> > So, I am not against creating a CMS, but what serve to create another
> > pizza shop in town, there is already 3...
>
> Maybe there is no pizza shop in the town suitable for vegetarians. ;)
>
> > I think it is more pragmatic to combine technology that works, even
> > if I where prefere to keep everything simple by doing everthing in
> > web2py...
>
> There is nice quote on web2py site: "Please use www.web2py.com when
> using MVC , no PHP/SQL stuff please...its 2011 not 1999!"
>
> It seems to be that, according to your logic, we should leave the users
> with no option except using Windows OS and let all the devs use
> Slackware/Gentoo or LFS. :-)
>
> Fortunately, someone invented Ubuntu (btw, I use Debian Sid) and it was
> not enough so some brave users went further and provided Linux Mint or
> even PC-BSD. :-)
>
> I'm encouraged by Massimo's "+1" and strongly believe that in order to
> say thank you for his work of providing such a wonderful piece of
> software for *free*, that web2py community should come together and
> give something back in the form of general web2py-ppowered CMS easy
> enough to be used stand-alone by end-users as well as flexible enough to
> allow devs/agencies to build upon it custom solutions.
>
> I know that if I'd be capable to do it, I wouldn't not think twice.
>
> However, I'm at the beginning of python-based web development and will
> probably have to start my modifying Mezzaning to build some sites, but I
> won't forget idea of web2py CMS. ;)
>
> > This is just my opinion and only my opinion...
>
> In my case I'm glad I'm not alone with my opinion. :P
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Gour
>
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