Can you elaborate on the pros and cons?

On Monday, 24 February 2014 12:31:12 UTC-6, LightDot wrote:
>
> I misunderstood you at first because I was looking at the modernizr too 
> much. If the proposal is to put respond.js into static/js, and remove 
> modernizr from it, than I'm +1 to that.
>
> <!-- All JavaScript at the bottom, except for Modernizr and Respond
>      If you need to use a local copy of modernizr.min.js, download it in 
> static/js sub-folder
>      and replace the script link in the following conditional comments with
>      <script src="{{=URL('static','js/modernizr.min.js')}}"></script>
> <!-- <script src="https://cdnjs.cloudflare.com/ajax/libs/modernizr/2.7.1/
> modernizr.min.js"></script> -->
> <!--[if lt IE 9]>
> <script src="{{=URL('static','js/respond.js')}}"></script> -->
> <![endif]-->
>
>
> On Monday, February 24, 2014 5:21:15 PM UTC+1, Niphlod wrote:
>>
>> I'm not confortable with having something cdn dependant. By default apps 
>> should be available also if no internet connectivity is assured.
>> +1 with defaulting to local and a comment to enable the cdn version.
>>
>> On Monday, February 24, 2014 1:05:13 PM UTC+1, LightDot wrote:
>>>
>>> Note to those not reading this group from a web interface: I edited my 
>>> post to fix copy paste typos in the code. This is the correct code again:
>>>
>>> <!-- All JavaScript at the bottom, except for Modernizr and Respond
>>>      If you need to use local copies of modernizr.min.js or respond.js 
>>> download them in
>>>      static/js sub-folder and replace the script links in the following 
>>> conditional comments with
>>>      <script src="{{=URL('static','js/modernizr.min.js')}}"></script>
>>>      <script src="{{=URL('static','js/respond.js')}}"></script> -->
>>> <!-- <script src="https://cdnjs.cloudflare.
>>> com/ajax/libs/modernizr/2.7.1/modernizr.min.js"></script> -->
>>> <!--[if lt IE 9]>
>>> <script src="https://cdnjs.cloudflare.com/ajax/libs/respond.js/1.4.
>>> 2/respond.js"></script>
>>> <![endif]-->
>>>
>>> I apologize for the mix up.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 24, 2014 12:28:19 PM UTC+1, LightDot wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How about putting Paolo's bootstrap3.py into contrib an have welcome 
>>>> app import it from there? His module provides most of the bootstrap 3 
>>>> support (forms, navigation, etc.). We could remove all this from core 
>>>> web2py.
>>>>
>>>> As for the welcome app static files, these are redundant (leftovers) 
>>>> now and should be deleted:
>>>>
>>>> static/css/bootstrap-responsive.min.css
>>>> static/css/web2py_bootstrap.css
>>>> static/css/web2py_bootstrap_nojs.css
>>>> static/js/dd_belatedpng.js
>>>> static/js/web2py_bootstrap.js
>>>>
>>>> This one is old (v3.0.3, should be v3.1.1):
>>>> static/css/bootstrap-theme.min.css
>>>>
>>>> I think we should define modernizr.custom.js to use a CDN and remove it 
>>>> from the static files too, same as respond.js is defined now. I also think 
>>>> we should be suggesting users to use  a free CDN instead of Maxcdn, so 
>>>> this 
>>>> should be in layout.html instead of what is now:
>>>>
>>>> <!-- All JavaScript at the bottom, except for Modernizr and Respond
>>>>      If you need to use local copies of modernizr.min.js or respond.js 
>>>> download them in
>>>>      static/js sub-folder and replace the script links in the following 
>>>> conditional comments with
>>>>      <script src="{{=URL('static','js/modernizr.min.js')}}"></script>
>>>>      <script src="{{=URL('static','js/respond.js')}}"></script> -->
>>>> <!-- <script src="
>>>> https://cdnjs.cloudflare.com/ajax/libs/modernizr/2.7.1/modernizr.min.js";></script>
>>>>  
>>>> -->
>>>> <!--[if lt IE 9]>
>>>> <script src="
>>>> https://cdnjs.cloudflare.com/ajax/libs/respond.js/1.4.2/respond.js
>>>> "></script>
>>>> <![endif]-->
>>>>
>>>> Another minor thing for the new layout.html: header section should also 
>>>> have id="header", same as other sections have.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't have time to test the changes to gluon/tools.py yet, I'll 
>>>> check out trunk a bit later...
>>>>
>>>> (note: edited to fix a typo in the code)
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, February 24, 2014 9:40:22 AM UTC+1, Niphlod wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> in my POV instead of reducing all alterations of default widgets in 
>>>>> javascript we should ship new widget sets alltogether. 
>>>>> This was discussed long ago but nobody seemed to care .... we can't 
>>>>> really start supporting every css framework out there unless we change 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> way widgets are generated.
>>>>> Going "bootstrap3" with this much FOUC is good for a plugin 
>>>>> proof-of-concept but I'd not ship it as a scaffolding application...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, February 24, 2014 7:12:22 AM UTC+1, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can we get rid of web2py-bootstrap3.js? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do we all these files?
>>>>>> web2py.css
>>>>>> bootstrap-responsive.min.css
>>>>>> bootstrap-theme.min.css
>>>>>> web2py-bootstrap3.css
>>>>>> web2py_bootstrap.css
>>>>>> web2py_bootstrap_nojs.css
>>>>>>
>>>>>> can we reduce to two:
>>>>>> web2py.css
>>>>>> web2py-bootstrap3.css
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, 24 February 2014 00:09:48 UTC-6, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Added some of the missing files. They were created by Paolo but it 
>>>>>>> was my mistake not to post them. They should address most of the issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, 23 February 2014 23:51:04 UTC-6, Ron McOuat wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I found this on Stack Overflow
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16214326/bootstrap-dropdown-with-hover
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ul.nav li.dropdown:hover ul.dropdown-menu {
>>>>>>>>    display: block;
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and I find this solution using CSS in the .css file under welcome 
>>>>>>>> named
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> static/css/web2py_bootstrap_nojs.css but not in any other css file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However this file is not included by another file anywhere in the 
>>>>>>>> welcome application.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this is it I just got lucky is all. :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Welcome application name header is scrunched up under the menu 
>>>>>>>> bar and partially visible lastest Firefox Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The web2py menu item (yellow) doesn't open like in 2.8.2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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