Just to understand what we are talking about, which are the main issues in 
porting web2py on python 3.x ?

Paolo

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 11:24:30 PM UTC+1, Ramos wrote:
>
> weppy looks like a short webp2y environment, however lacks some good 
> documentation like web2py and all of the code samples are very short and 
> errors come often.
> Seems that the only one helping is the "creator" itself.
> Unfortunately i dont see it as a good alternative to web2py.
>
> At least web2py has a lot of people helping everybody.
>
>
>
> 2015-11-13 17:49 GMT+00:00 Jim S <j...@qlf.com <javascript:>>:
>
>> What are the chances that weppy (www.weppy.org) becomes the Python 3 
>> version of web2py?
>>
>> I'm working with the newly available, officially supported Python 
>> implementation on IBM i (formerly AS/400) and it is Python version 3.4 so 
>> web2py isn't an option for me.  Is there any news or direction for people 
>> forced to use Python 3?  I really don't want to give up my web2py knowledge 
>> and move to another framework.  The other big guns (django, flask, bottle, 
>> pyramid) all have Python 3 versions.  
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> -Jim
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 6:41:49 PM UTC-6, Massimo Di Pierro 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I do not think it is a secret. As far as I know the security pricing 
>>> infrastructure of Bank of America is based on proprietary object database 
>>> built in Python and the JP Morgan Chase has been working for some time on 
>>> an internal trading platform based on Python (do not know if it is in use 
>>> at this time). Also I have consulted with some local trading companies in 
>>> Chicago that use Python+pytable+numpy+hdf5.
>>>
>>> Here is a source 
>>> https://www.quora.com/Why-are-banks-like-JP-Morgan-and-Bank-of-America-Merrill-Lynch-using-Python-to-replace-historic-legacy-systems-built-in-Java-C++
>>>  
>>> but I have my own sources. :-)
>>>
>>> In fact a friend told me Bank of America uses web2py too although not 
>>> for business critical apps where they use proprietary code, but for 
>>> interfacing some of their Air Conditioning systems. I have been unable to 
>>> verify this information. I know other banks or large financial institutions 
>>> that also use web2py for some of internal non-business critical development.
>>>
>>> Massimo
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 11 November 2015 09:34:41 UTC-6, Ramos wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What banks? can you share that info ?
>>>>
>>>> 2015-11-11 15:21 GMT+00:00 Massimo Di Pierro <massimo....@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> As of today python 3 is used almost exclusively in schools. Do you 
>>>>> know of any large company that uses Python 3? I do not. But I know many 
>>>>> large companies that use Python 2, including banks.  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, 9 November 2015 01:36:40 UTC-6, Remco Boerma wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great one Alex. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While searching for web2py and python3 the first result i got was 
>>>>>> this 
>>>>>> <https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/31ai10/web2py_python3/>. 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi...I m total beginner in python with elastic search also Unicode 
>>>>>>> ... I am looking for a wonderful framework & was keen on web2py..but 
>>>>>>> just 
>>>>>>> happened to read that its not compatible with python 3..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pl guide me abt this issue & in selecting framework
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With regards to all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been asked to start a new internship-company for a project i'm 
>>>>>> involved in. And I so want to take those boys and girls on the web2py 
>>>>>> path, 
>>>>>> but to ask of those new-to-the-market to invest in a legacy language 
>>>>>> (2020 
>>>>>> is only 4 years from now) is something that feels odd to me. Especially 
>>>>>> since i know the power and grace of web2py. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know the subject has been debated and debated but for the sake of 
>>>>>> these students (and these are not the high university kind, but rather 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> ground-work and getting-stuff-done folks) i would kindly ask to take the 
>>>>>> future into consideration as well as our marketing because web2py is 
>>>>>> simply 
>>>>>> droped out of the equation because of py2. I would love to teach those 
>>>>>> kids 
>>>>>> web2py and be future proof. Many schools already teach things from a 
>>>>>> hundred years ago, let's not do that in IT as well. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank your for considering. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Op vrijdag 6 november 2015 23:57:33 UTC+1 schreef Alex:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> web2py for python 3 would be great. I hope it comes rather sooner 
>>>>>>> than later. I'd love to use python 3, no more str <-> unicode nonsense 
>>>>>>> (which already caused many issues and wasted time for me), type hints 
>>>>>>> (seems to have good support in PyCharm) and other new features. I think 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> current situation could also scare away potential new users when they 
>>>>>>> see 
>>>>>>> that web2py does not support python 3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pyDAL seems to be already compatible with python 3. Is it not 
>>>>>>> possible to make the remaining parts also compatible or are there 
>>>>>>> completely new concepts planned? I for one would completely remove the 
>>>>>>> FORM 
>>>>>>> code - it's nice and easy to get something up and running but difficult 
>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>> style (no clear separation of backend/frontend) and extend. I'm using 
>>>>>>> knockout (I guess any data binding js lib will do fine) which is very 
>>>>>>> flexible and easy to understand. That should be the preferred way to do 
>>>>>>> forms and recommended in the book. But that's just my opinion. No more 
>>>>>>> FORM 
>>>>>>> would mean less code to port to python 3 ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 4:37:56 PM UTC+1, Ramos wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @massimo 
>>>>>>>> When will it be available ? 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2015-11-04 14:38 GMT+00:00 Massimo Di Pierro <massimo....@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There will be a new framework similar to web2py for python 3. 
>>>>>>>>> web2py has to be backward compatible and it is pointless to port it 
>>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>>> python 3. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 4 November 2015 06:25:40 UTC-6, Jim Gregory wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I know this has come up in the past, but it hasn't been asked in 
>>>>>>>>>> a while. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there ever going to be a usable and maintained 
>>>>>>>>>> Python3-compatible fork of web2py?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The latest edition of Fedora now ships with Python3 by default. 
>>>>>>>>>> It's the default version used in Django's tutorial.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not using Python3 now, but I can see the day when I 
>>>>>>>>>> inevitably will. I don't want to invest the time in a framework if I 
>>>>>>>>>> know 
>>>>>>>>>> I'll have to abandon it later.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> Resources:
>>>>>>>>> - http://web2py.com
>>>>>>>>> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation)
>>>>>>>>> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code)
>>>>>>>>> - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues)
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>>>>> Resources:
>>>>> - http://web2py.com
>>>>> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation)
>>>>> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code)
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>> Resources:
>> - http://web2py.com
>> - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation)
>> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code)
>> - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues)
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