On 13 oct, 22:29, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> I feel this will be a maintenance nightmare unless it somehow upgrades
> itself. The release process of debian is very slow compared to ours.
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Yes and not. Debian is three distributions: stable, testing and sid.
If you want to run sid, you have the most upgraded distribution in the
world.


The web2py package in stable must be stable, i.e. it must not change,
except for security patches. Even if it's two years old, it must be
work. I don't think it should be a nightmare if web2py changelog
explicits says when a security fix is applied.
This would allow a web2py application installed in a stable Debian
machine can run for years, without worrying if a new change in the
latest web2py release would break the compatibility.
Also, this would allow some new "applications" built over web2py could
be added to the Debian repository, just adding python-web2py as a
dependency.

I've been using web2py for about a year, and some of my applications
are running a 10 months web2py version without any problem, and I
don't plan to upgrade it. I feel happy using the new features of the
latest versions, but for new applications: that's what Debian testing
or Debian sid distributions are for.





> On Oct 13, 3:12 pm, Michele Comitini <michele.comit...@gmail.com>
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> > Hi José,
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> > The .deb is badly needed to spread web2py even more!
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> > Would that be useful for ubuntu also which is probaly the most common
> > linux distro?
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> > The packaging must also take into account that a machine could have
> > different instances of web2py.
> > It would be a good idea to have some tools in the .deb to support the
> > creation of different instances, maybe
> > throughhttp://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenvsothat upgrade of
> > system python doesn't break everything as it usually happens on
> >  debian with other python frameworks.
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> > mic
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> > 2010/10/13 José L. <jredr...@gmail.com>:
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> > > Hi, as it seems that time goes by, and no available packages for
> > > Debian are ready, I'm going to begin to work on it seriously to upload
> > > web2py to Debian.
> > > I know 
> > > (http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/45ea4327d7...
> > > ) Mark told he was going to work on it, but I think that I have been
> > > patient enough waiting since April. It's not only Debian is one of the
> > > most important Linux distribution, also many other distributions as
> > > Ubuntu are derivatives from Debian, so uploading web2py to Debian will
> > > bring it to many users in the Linux world.
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> > > I'd like to have a package similar to the django one. There is a
> > > python-django package, and I'd like to make a python-web2py package to
> > > work in a similar way, so people don't need to relearn a new method of
> > > work.
> > > I'd like it to work as similar as possible to
> > >http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2007/12/01/django-in-ubuntu/.
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> > > So, the main question for me is:
> > > once gluon is installed in the PYTHONPATH and web2py.py installed in /
> > > usr/bin,  I would  like to be able to tell the user:
> > > execute python web2py.py in any directory and point your browser to
> > >http://localhost:8000tobegin to work.
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> > > But, as web2py structure is today, I don't know if such thing is
> > > possible (after adding every needed file to every needed path).
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> > > If not, what other approaches might be used to make any user in the
> > > system able to use a system with a installed web2py structure?
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> > > On the other hand, if more people want to collaborate in the packaging
> > > I'll be glad to open a project in alioth.debian.org, so we can work
> > > together.
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> > > Regards.
> > > José L.

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