On 15/03/2013, at 7:55 AM, Gregg Tavares <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Ryosuke Niwa <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Dean Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 15/03/2013, at 6:50 AM, Dana Jansens <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Dean Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I'm not sure I like this proposal. Why is canvas special? Why doesn't <img> 
>> get an opaque attribute (or flag)? Why not every element?
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>> There is ongoing work to infer opaqueness in every other kind of element 
>> when possible. See for example https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70634
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> Yes, I'd prefer to infer it rather than specify it. For example, I could 
> infer that a canvas is opaque if it has a non-transparent CSS 
> background-color.
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> The content of the canvas has to be blended with the background color so that 
> doesn't help optimization. If there's a background color you first have to do 
> a full blend of the contents of the canvas with the background color. Where 
> as if the canvas has no alpha then that step can be avoided.

We're probably getting a bit off the general topic here, but why don't you 
consider the background color as a fillRect(0, 0, width, height) on the empty 
canvas? As has been said, this doesn't change the behaviour of the 
painting/blending operations in the canvas itself, just how it is composited 
into the document.

I guess we should take this conversation to the HTML list.

Dean

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> I like this approach. It means that developers don't have to explicitly use 
> this feature to get the performance benefits.
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> In fact, this is the preferred performance optimization approach on the Web. 
> We don't provide explicit APIs to optimize performance. We make sensible APIs 
> which allows us to implement more optimizations on common cases behind the 
> scene.
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> - R. Niwa
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