Hello Mike;

I think I was _just_ doing fetches at one point, but I suspect that there was a 
change in 5.3 -> 5.4 in that "invalidate...()" in 5.3 did not drop to-manys 
from caches in EOF and 5.4 seemed to.  In 5.3 fresh fetch with pre-pretches 
into to-manys did re-cache the to-many, but in 5.4 it did not seem to.  I 
obviously am unable to look and see what it is actually doing, but that is my 
observation and the only way I could get it to function for to-many's is to use 
invalidate... –– I presume that change notification in PW is functioning 
seamlessly under high load in 5.4 without invalidate and for to-many 
relationships?  Do you take out a DBC lock for the duration of the change 
notification process for all DBC's which are involved in the changes?  I guess 
I should go take a look...

cheers.

>> What I have done is to use a lock across the work of handling R-R cycles and 
>> the change notification (the only place where the invalidate is actioned).  
>> In this way, if the issue is one of concurrency with "regular EC use" then I 
>> should see this issue go away for human-facing instances which are doing any 
>> EC-work outside of the R-R cycles.  It's still a fair way off a production 
>> deploy, but I will let you know if this resolves the issue.
> in wonder's we take a dbc lock during the background queue processing, then 
> do a refreshing fetch of the affected EO so that it updated the snapshots. 
> you really don't want to ever do an .invalidate() because if you any EO's in 
> an modified state, they'll be messed up.

___
Andrew Lindesay
www.silvereye.co.nz

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