On 17 Nov 2010, at 06:49, Pascal Robert wrote: > > Le 2010-11-16 à 14:42, Antonio Petri a écrit : > >> >> Of course, the sad reality is that our industry loves to just syntactically >> masturbate with different languages and pretend that we're much better for >> it when the reality is that basically nothing has changed in 30 years in >> terms of how we actually solve problems. >> >> I get this as iTunes, Google and Twitter could have well been built using >> Pascal (the language...) > > No, because Pascal is too fat :-) At least that was one of my teachers said > in college when we had to do a DOS (!!) app to send files over a NULL modem > and he said that we will do the project in C because Pascal is too fat...
C is both fat and lean - the wrong way round - fat with traps and bereft of sensible patterns, like good string and array handling. It is sad to see how teachers like that helped establish C - the worst thing that ever happened to computing - in a dominant position. Now that really SUCKS! I think I'll reiterate Bob Barton's quote: "Systems programmers are high priest of a low cult" http://www.smalltalk.org/smalltalk/TheEarlyHistoryOfSmalltalk_VI.html > >> >> On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Ian Joyner wrote: >> >> > I agree with this too. Problem or fixed complexity must be dealt with >> > somewhere in the system, and arguments often abound as to where that >> > should be done (almost always without people recognizing that fact). I >> > wrote on that recently too: >> > >> > http://www.ianjoyner.name/Ian_Joyner/Complexity.html >> > >> > so am in vehement agreement. >> > >> > It's always a problem getting something to run quickly, like Twitter, to >> > see if it succeeds or fails, before committing significant resources, and >> > then like Twitter maybe rewriting your message queues in Scala for speed. >> > (Something done by WO, I think?) >> > >> > But getting something quickly done in WO, might be a problem. Pascal's >> > words about "learning cliff" still ring in my ears ;-) >> > >> > Ian >> > _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
