Well, I grok groovy more than scala, but that isn't saying much. I
just see Grails as getting everything right about Java (for the most
part) and picking what was right about Rails. Liftweb seems to make my
brain hurt, and Play is a minimal Grails without half the traction to
getting things done.


On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Ray Kiddy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Mar 10, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
>
>> Just finished glancing through a Scala book... how do you implement faulting 
>> with it? You know: Bar bar = foo.getBar(). The only thing I saw is 
>> continuation-passing, which is async by nature?
>>
>> Cheers, Anjo
>>
>
> In order to use WO stuff with Scala you basically have to remove many of the 
> ideas behind WO first. Every access to an object in EOF is done via one 
> enormous lock on the entire framework. If you want the benefits of using 
> Scala, you need to go to the old idea that every editing context will need 
> its own entirely separate EOF stack. There is an obvious mis-match in the 
> conceptual frames here....
>
> I actually think it would be more interesting to see an implementation of WO 
> and EOF in Clojure. It would be harder for people to wrap their heads around 
> Clojure, but it it is a dynamic language like ObjC, and one could actually 
> implement the concepts of WO and EOF in Clojure instead of subverting them, 
> as one would have to do with Scala.
>
> - ray
>
>>
>> Am 10.03.2011 um 21:18 schrieb Lachlan Deck:
>>
>>> lift (for scala) is pretty cool.
>>>
>>> http://liftweb.net/
>>> http://demo.liftweb.net/
>>> http://exploring.liftweb.net/
>>>
>>> On 11/03/2011, at 3:25 AM, Joe Little wrote:
>>>
>>>> Grails is more similar to WO than Play though -- especially
>>>> considering GORM approaches some of the niceties of EOF and Wonder
>>>> qualifiers. Both easier in the easy case, but harder when you have
>>>> multiple relationships (stuck with Hibernate criteria builders then)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Pascal Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 2011-03-09 à 20:57, Mike Schrag a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> of the non-wo java web frameworks, Play is the only one that ever looked 
>>>>>> interesting to me ... definitely inherits a lot of "remove the crap" 
>>>>>> from rails, which is nice. i haven't built anything with it, but it 
>>>>>> looked like a nice framework from the docs and examples.
>>>>>
>>>>> It even have a basic D2W-like system :
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.playframework.org/documentation/1.1.1/guide7
>>>>>
>>>>>> ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 9, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I saw a demo of the Play! Framework (http://www.playframework.org) at a 
>>>>>>> conference today, and I must say that it's the first time that I saw 
>>>>>>> something that I really want to try out. It seems like a good mix 
>>>>>>> between Ruby on Rails and WO, so I was wondering if someone else here 
>>>>>>> have tried out that framework? 
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