Thanks a lot.  I feel like I understand it now.  It's very cool, I never 
understood exactly how the URLs worked.

On Jan 31, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Johann Werner <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Johnny,
> 
> Am 01.02.2013 um 06:12 schrieb Johnny Miller <[email protected]>:
> 
>> Cool.  By using appendChildrenToResponse it now works!
>> 
>> There is an extra artifact (I need to wrap the WOHyperlinks with an LI) that 
>> I'll need to figure out how to get rid of.  I'm going to take a peek at 
>> WODynamicGroup and see if I can figure out the incrementing of the element 
>> id.
> 
> the methods you are looking for can be found in WOContext:
> 
> appendZeroElementIDComponent()        if you are going one level down before 
> calling appendToResponse on the child(ren)
> incrementLastElementIDComponent()     when going from one element to the next 
> one on the same nesting level
> deleteLastElementIDComponent()                if you are done with the 
> children and are returning to your element
> 
> If you are doing the plumbing in your component yourself you have to use 
> those. Or as Chuck pointed out just use the appendChildrenToResponse and you 
> get it for free ;)
> 
> jw
> 
> 
>> 
>> Thanks a million!
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Chuck Hill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2013-01-31, at 8:35 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
>>> 
>>>> So the process is like this:
>>>> 
>>>> In the Menu constructor // find all the children who are menu items
>>>> 
>>>> In the Menu appendToResponse
>>>> 
>>>> // write some html
>>>> // loop through children
>>>> // child.appendToResponse
>>> 
>>> Rather than that, call appendChildrenToResponse.  For invoke, use 
>>> invokeChildrenAction
>>> 
>>> That will at least get you closer.
>>> 
>>>> // close off the html
>>>> 
>>>> Then in the Menu Item constructor // find all the children who are 
>>>> WOHyperlinks
>>>> 
>>>> In the appendToResponse
>>>> // write some html
>>>> // loop through the children
>>>> // child.appendToResponse
>>>> // close off the html
>>>> 
>>>> So when I add the logging for the context.elementID() in both Menu and 
>>>> Menu Item I see that they have the same element ID.  Do I need to manually 
>>>> increment them?
>>> 
>>> Your code is causing code in super to NOT get called and that code is what 
>>> manages the element IDs.  So either you need to call it (see above) or you 
>>> need to manage these on your own.
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks a lot!
>>>> 
>>>> p.s. here is a screenshot of the final output.  It's a little menu (that I 
>>>> have all over the place) that has a little popup.  The motivation is to 
>>>> stop writing a bunch of HTML every time I use it.
>>>> 
>>>> <Screen Shot 2013-01-31 at 11.20.12 AM.png>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Chuck Hill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-01-31, at 6:26 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm kind of stumbling in the dark.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I put a logging statement on invokeAction for the menu, menu item and 
>>>>>> erxhyperlink.  And in ERXHyperlink I added a logging statement for the 
>>>>>> sender and element ids
>>>>> 
>>>>> Try doing the same for appendToResponse
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So I get something like this:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> MENU IA...
>>>>>> MENU ITEM IA...
>>>>>> ERXH IA
>>>>>> 0.9.1.13.1.5.1.5 (sender)
>>>>>> 0.9.1.13.1.5.1.5.1.1 (element)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So that ends up returning null because the call to super is null and 
>>>>>> then it doesn't satisfy the check to see if it should invoke action on 
>>>>>> the child elements (which makes sense because it should invoke action on 
>>>>>> this element).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not sure what to do at this point except scratch the idea?
>>>>> 
>>>>> What that looks like to me is that the generation of the elementID during 
>>>>> append to response is different from invokeAction.  What outputs 
>>>>> 0.9.1.13.1.5.1.5 during appendToResponse?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you outputting the HTML for the hyperlink in your own code?  If so, 
>>>>> you are not properly incrementing and decrementing the elementID.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Chuck Hill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Generally, when senderID().equals(elementID()) the action is for that 
>>>>>>> component
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2013-01-31, at 4:21 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes.  I guess my question is I'm wondering if there is a way to use 
>>>>>>>> the senderID to find the right child element?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Chuck Hill <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2013-01-31, at 4:08 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Oops... looks like I didn't cc the list on that last one.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So if I override invokeAction in MenuItem
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> And I print out the context.elementID() and context.senderID() they 
>>>>>>>>>> match with something like: 0.9.1.13.1.5.1.5
>>>>>>>>>> But the url has an extra value: 9.0.9.1.13.1.5.1.5
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm a little lost as to how to interpret that?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> That depends on what you are looking at.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "/cgi-bin/WebObjects/KMIWebCMSApp_1.woa/-5570/wo/43.0.9.1.13.1.5.1.5"
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The number right after /wo/ is the context ID (43 in the URL above) 
>>>>>>>>> and will increase with each request.  The following numbers are the 
>>>>>>>>> element ID (.0.9.1.13.1.5.1.5).  Is that the extra value you are 
>>>>>>>>> talking about?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Johnny Miller <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> For the uninitiated how would I "step through" the context id 
>>>>>>>>>>> during the invoke action phase?  I believe I've seen that 
>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere... Do you happen to know of a component I could use an 
>>>>>>>>>>> example?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hill <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-01-31, at 2:36 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Chuck Hill 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-01-31, at 2:02 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Guru,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel like I should come to WOWODC with a flowing beard and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long robes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that would be awesome.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is probably not considered unusual in Montreal.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not overriding invokeAction on either Menu or MenuItem is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the mistake?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am just guessing from the symptoms.  "Menu finds all it's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MenuItems and then the MenuItem finds all it's hyperlinks" is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not the way that WO is intended to work (though I have abused it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like that myself), so I am unsure what it happening in your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code.  Is childrenElements() getting populated correctly?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I'm actually basing this off of AjaxTabbedPanel (which is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your component I believe?)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that was my wilful abuse of WO.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The HTML output is exactly the way I want so it must be correctly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> finding the child elements.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like AjaxTabbedPanel I put the find children function in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> constructor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IDK if it helps but the output looks like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ul class="footer-navigation"><li><a  href="#" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> data-trigger="contextMenu"data-contextmenu-options = 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "{'display':'above'}">+</a><ul class="dropdown-menu"><li><a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> href="/cgi-bin/WebObjects/KMIWebCMSApp_1.woa/-5570/wo/43.0.9.1.13.1.5.1.5">Create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  New Group</a></li></ul></li></ul>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menu is the outer UL
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MenuItem is everything inside the first LI
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the links are put inside the list items inside the inner UL
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will guess that the .0.9.1.13.1.5.1.5 generated in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> appendToResponse is not matching the elementID when invokeAction 
>>>>>>>>>>>> is processed.  You are going to have to step through it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Chuck Hill 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is Menu calling invokeAction on all of the MenuItem?  Are they 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calling it on all of the hyperlinks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-01-31, at 1:15 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have some code that looks like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <webobject name = "Menu">
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <webobject name = "MenuItem">
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  <wo:Hyperlink action = "$someAction">Do Stuff</wo:hyperlink>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </webobject>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </webobject>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menu and MenuItem are two components that subclass 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERXDynamicElement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically Menu finds all it's MenuItems and then the MenuItem 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finds all it's hyperlinks and they are formatted the way I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want during the respective appendToResponse phases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The HTML looks right but for some reason $someAction doesn't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get called when the link is clicked?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone shed the light on what I'm missing?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aloha,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Johnny Miller
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web Development Manager
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kahalawai Media Company
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