On 5. 2. 2015, at 7:14, Troy Lumasag <[email protected]> wrote: > What really are the problems - direct, impending or long term problems being > as it is now? > I can recall these stated problems if I understood it correct:
0. no ObjC support. To get at least a remotely similar productivity, I've successfully managed to use Groovy with WO, but still it is a royal PITA; whilst Groovy is worlds better than Java, it's still far from ObjC. > 1. porting issues(moving to future java versions) > 2. single-threaded editing context <- Must be a bottleneck problem for > multiple instance setup? 3. weird bugs the source of which it is quite difficult to find, without having an access to sources (or a support who has). I'm still rather anxious about the Case of Mysteriously Deleted EOs, see http://prod.lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2014/Nov/msg00163.html > Sorry if I'm being naive on my question haha > > --Troy > > On 2/5/2015 11:55 AM, Timothy Worman wrote: >> WebObjects is one of Apple’s weapons - it helps them be fluid and quick - >> especially with the devs they have. Maybe open sourcing WO seems threatening >> because it is a internal business advantage. >> >> Tim Worman >> UCLA GSE&IS >> >>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 4:59 PM, OC <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On 5. 2. 2015, at 1:42, Hugi Thordarson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Apple cares about money, not us. >>> Oh, absolutely! Given the zilliards Apple charges for WebObjects >>> licences... oh, wait. >>> >>> Actually I just don't get it -- for long long years I don't get it at all. >>> >>> (i) first, they seriously cripple the world's best web application >>> framework by cutting out the ObjC support, leaving it Java-only, and thus >>> half-unusable. >>> >>> (ii) then they stop bundling it. >>> >>> (iii) then they stop supporting it at all. >>> >>> All right, I can see after (i) they could hardly charge any money for >>> licencing, whilst the support price would skyrocket; but why on earth not >>> put it to open source at the same moment?!? >>> >>> The same company who is known to put _lots_ of pretty interesting things to >>> public (see Darwin). >>> >>> Oh, sigh. >>> >>> About the only (dumb and conspirational) theory I can think of is that were >>> the sources open, hacking App Store would get the usual 'varsity freaks >>> pastime :) >>> >>>> - hugi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2015/02/03/coreclr-is-now-open-source.aspx >>>>> >>>>> The github is here >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr >>>>> >>>>> It’s a shame Apple never did the same with WO. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/ocs%40ocs.cz >>>> >>>> This email sent to [email protected] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lists%40thetimmy.com >>> >>> This email sent to [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/tlumasag%40gmail.com >> >> This email sent to [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/ocs%40ocs.cz > > This email sent to [email protected] _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list ([email protected]) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [email protected]
