And no leadership. Also, at WOWODC 2014, almost everyone said that they are 
using their own forks. 

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De: "Chuck Hill" <[email protected]> 
À: "Ken Anderson" <[email protected]>, "Pascal Robert" <[email protected]> 
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Envoyé: Jeudi 5 Février 2015 16:42:00 
Objet: Re: [OT] .Net goes Open Source 

I think he means there have not been a lot of new additions or work done on it 
lately. 



On 2015-02-05, 1:13 PM, "Ken Anderson" wrote: 




Nobody cares about WOnder anymore? You feeling OK Pascal? 

On Feb 5, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Pascal Robert < [email protected] > wrote: 


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I guess it will be in the not-very-open TreasureBoard. Nobody cares about 
Wonder anymore. 

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De: "Daniel D CIV NAVAIR Beatty, 474300D" < [email protected] > 
À: " [email protected] " < [email protected] > 
Envoyé: Jeudi 5 Février 2015 16:07:11 
Objet: RE: [OT] .Net goes Open Source 

Hi gang, 
I seem to remember talk amongst the project wonder gang that we might actually 
refactor Wonder to use a pseudo-web-objects. If looks like WO, smells like WO, 
but legally not WO could Wonder be the owner? 

V/R, 

Daniel Beatty, Ph.D., 
IEEE Certified Software Development Professional (CSDP) 
Computer Scientist 
Code 474300D 
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Behalf Of Troy Lumasag 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:15 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [OT] .Net goes Open Source 

Hey guys, 

What really are the problems - direct, impending or long term problems being as 
it is now? 
I can recall these stated problems if I understood it correct: 
1. porting issues(moving to future java versions) 2. single-threaded editing 
context <- Must be a bottleneck problem for multiple instance setup? 

Sorry if I'm being naive on my question haha 

--Troy 

On 2/5/2015 11:55 AM, Timothy Worman wrote: 

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WebObjects is one of Apple’s weapons - it helps them be fluid and quick - 
especially with the devs they have. Maybe open sourcing WO seems threatening 
because it is a internal business advantage. 

Tim Worman 
UCLA GSE&IS 


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On Feb 4, 2015, at 4:59 PM, OC < [email protected] > wrote: 

On 5. 2. 2015, at 1:42, Hugi Thordarson < [email protected] > wrote: 

<blockquote>
Apple cares about money, not us. 


Oh, absolutely! Given the zilliards Apple charges for WebObjects licences... 
oh, wait. 

Actually I just don't get it -- for long long years I don't get it at all. 

(i) first, they seriously cripple the world's best web application framework by 
cutting out the ObjC support, leaving it Java-only, and thus half-unusable. 

(ii) then they stop bundling it. 

(iii) then they stop supporting it at all. 

All right, I can see after (i) they could hardly charge any money for 
licencing, whilst the support price would skyrocket; but why on earth not put 
it to open source at the same moment?!? 

The same company who is known to put _lots_ of pretty interesting things to 
public (see Darwin). 

Oh, sigh. 

About the only (dumb and conspirational) theory I can think of is 
that were the sources open, hacking App Store would get the usual 
'varsity freaks pastime :) 


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- hugi 




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http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2015/02/03/coreclr-is-now-op 
en-source.aspx 

The github is here 

https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr 

It’s a shame Apple never did the same with WO. 

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