It's their best kept secret. Their super secret weapon.  :-)

> On May 4, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Joel M. Benisch <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Which would seem to indicate that work is continuing on WO for Apple's 
> internal use ????
> 
> Am I stating the obvious???
> 
> Joel
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>> On May 4, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
>> 
>> Looks like most WO devs in North America are working directly or indirectly 
>> for Apple. That would explain why we have more Europeans coming to WOWODC 
>> than people near.
>> 
>> De : [email protected] 
>> <[email protected]> de la part de 
>> Ricardo Parada <[email protected]>
>> Envoyé : 4 mai 2016 13:53:31
>> À : Chuck Hill
>> Cc : WebObjects-Dev
>> Objet : Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
>>  
>> 
>> I see people disappear from this list every time they are hired by Apple. I 
>> just noticed Kieran has not been active in the list and his linked in 
>> profile says he is now at Apple. 
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> On May 4, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Chuck Hill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Gee…. I wonder if he will still associate with us now!
>>> 
>>> From: Ramsey Gurley <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 10:24 AM
>>> To: David LeBer <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Chuck Hill <[email protected]>, WebObjects-Dev 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
>>> 
>>> Hugi, you’re famous now :D
>>> 
>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-officially-discontinues-webobjects-2016-5
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 3, 2016, at 4:20 PM, David LeBer <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, I was surprised by that too.
>>>> 
>>>> Apple rarely gives definitive statements on anything, let alone a long 
>>>> dead and forgotten product ;)
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> D
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 3, 2016 at 7:11:05 PM, Chuck Hill ([email protected]) wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am surprised that Hugi got a clear statement from Apple. That must have 
>>>>> taken some persistence! “Frank, this damn Hugi guy keeps bugging us every 
>>>>> year, get rid of him!”
>>>>> 
>>>>> :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2016-05-03, 4:04 PM, 
>>>>> "[email protected] on behalf of 
>>>>> Pascal Robert" 
>>>>> <[email protected] on behalf of 
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Le 3 mai 2016 à 12:47, Flavio Donadio <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> Hugi,
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> That’s bad news, but it’s exactly what we expected, in a certain way. 
>>>>> >> The silence and lack of updates for such a long time were telling us 
>>>>> >> the truth, although we wouldn’t accept it — there had to be a final 
>>>>> >> word, straight from the horse’s mouth! I guess we have it now.
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> So, they say WO is dead. We say “long live, WO!"
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> We should move on to the next step: nagging Apple to release WO/EOF as 
>>>>> >> open source software! ;-)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >This topic comes around every year. Multiple people asked this to Apple 
>>>>> >over the last 7 years. It won’t happen. Final.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>> >> Flavio
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >>> On 03/05/2016, at 12:19, Hugi Thordarson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> Hi all.
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> We probably all know that WO's been practically dead to Apple for a 
>>>>> >>> long time, but unfortunately Apple has refused to state so officially 
>>>>> >>> (at least I don't recall there being an official statement).
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> Anyhow… In the past years I've regularly sent letters to Tim Cook, 
>>>>> >>> asking about the state of WO (being the naggy guy I am) and recently, 
>>>>> >>> I was contacted by Apple executive relations regarding my questions. 
>>>>> >>> The guy I spoke to called a couple of times, at first, he had 
>>>>> >>> absolutely no idea what WO was but the second time he called, he had 
>>>>> >>> obtained information and had a clear statement: "WebObjects is a 
>>>>> >>> discontinued product and will never be upgraded".
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> I know this information is extremely redundant, but I still wanted to 
>>>>> >>> tell you since it was something of a relief. Felt a little like the 
>>>>> >>> police calling you to let you know that they'd found the remains of 
>>>>> >>> your friend that's been missing for 15 years and finally declared him 
>>>>> >>> dead.
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> But of course, this changes nothing; WO is still better than ever. We 
>>>>> >>> just need to continue to distance Wonder from WO and move forward.
>>>>> >>> 
>>>>> >>> Cheers,
>>>>> >>> - hugi
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