Sounds right to me.
And to answer Paul Yu's question, no, I don't think it matters at all.

Joel
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On May 4, 2016, at 12:46 PM, Ricardo Parada wrote:

> It's their best kept secret. Their super secret weapon.  :-)
> 
> On May 4, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Joel M. Benisch <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Which would seem to indicate that work is continuing on WO for Apple's 
>> internal use ????
>> 
>> Am I stating the obvious???
>> 
>> Joel
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>> On May 4, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
>> 
>>> Looks like most WO devs in North America are working directly or indirectly 
>>> for Apple. That would explain why we have more Europeans coming to WOWODC 
>>> than people near.
>>> 
>>> De : [email protected] 
>>> <[email protected]> de la part de 
>>> Ricardo Parada <[email protected]>
>>> Envoyé : 4 mai 2016 13:53:31
>>> À : Chuck Hill
>>> Cc : WebObjects-Dev
>>> Objet : Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I see people disappear from this list every time they are hired by Apple. I 
>>> just noticed Kieran has not been active in the list and his linked in 
>>> profile says he is now at Apple. 
>>> 
>>> :-)
>>> 
>>> On May 4, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Chuck Hill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Gee…. I wonder if he will still associate with us now!
>>>> 
>>>> From: Ramsey Gurley <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 10:24 AM
>>>> To: David LeBer <[email protected]>
>>>> Cc: Chuck Hill <[email protected]>, WebObjects-Dev 
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple
>>>> 
>>>> Hugi, you’re famous now :D
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-officially-discontinues-webobjects-2016-5
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 3, 2016, at 4:20 PM, David LeBer <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah, I was surprised by that too.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apple rarely gives definitive statements on anything, let alone a long 
>>>>> dead and forgotten product ;)
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> D
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 3, 2016 at 7:11:05 PM, Chuck Hill ([email protected]) wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am surprised that Hugi got a clear statement from Apple. That must 
>>>>>> have taken some persistence! “Frank, this damn Hugi guy keeps bugging us 
>>>>>> every year, get rid of him!”
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2016-05-03, 4:04 PM, 
>>>>>> "[email protected] on behalf of 
>>>>>> Pascal Robert" 
>>>>>> <[email protected] on behalf of 
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Le 3 mai 2016 à 12:47, Flavio Donadio <[email protected]> a écrit 
>>>>>> >> :
>>>>>> >> 
>>>>>> >> Hugi,
>>>>>> >> 
>>>>>> >> 
>>>>>> >> That’s bad news, but it’s exactly what we expected, in a certain way. 
>>>>>> >> The silence and lack of updates for such a long time were telling us 
>>>>>> >> the truth, although we wouldn’t accept it — there had to be a final 
>>>>>> >> word, straight from the horse’s mouth! I guess we have it now.
>>>>>> >> 
>>>>>> >> So, they say WO is dead. We say “long live, WO!"
>>>>>> >> 
>>>>>> >> We should move on to the next step: nagging Apple to release WO/EOF 
>>>>>> >> as open source software! ;-)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >This topic comes around every year. Multiple people asked this to Apple 
>>>>>> >over the last 7 years. It won’t happen. Final.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> 
>>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>>> >> Flavio
>>>>>> >> 
>>>>>> >> 
>>>>>> >>> On 03/05/2016, at 12:19, Hugi Thordarson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> Hi all.
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> We probably all know that WO's been practically dead to Apple for a 
>>>>>> >>> long time, but unfortunately Apple has refused to state so 
>>>>>> >>> officially (at least I don't recall there being an official 
>>>>>> >>> statement).
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> Anyhow… In the past years I've regularly sent letters to Tim Cook, 
>>>>>> >>> asking about the state of WO (being the naggy guy I am) and 
>>>>>> >>> recently, I was contacted by Apple executive relations regarding my 
>>>>>> >>> questions. The guy I spoke to called a couple of times, at first, he 
>>>>>> >>> had absolutely no idea what WO was but the second time he called, he 
>>>>>> >>> had obtained information and had a clear statement: "WebObjects is a 
>>>>>> >>> discontinued product and will never be upgraded".
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> I know this information is extremely redundant, but I still wanted 
>>>>>> >>> to tell you since it was something of a relief. Felt a little like 
>>>>>> >>> the police calling you to let you know that they'd found the remains 
>>>>>> >>> of your friend that's been missing for 15 years and finally declared 
>>>>>> >>> him dead.
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> But of course, this changes nothing; WO is still better than ever. 
>>>>>> >>> We just need to continue to distance Wonder from WO and move forward.
>>>>>> >>> 
>>>>>> >>> Cheers,
>>>>>> >>> - hugi
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