Yes, sure. But is there a way to test Apple’s willingness to legally respond to 
an infringement of their copyright?

> Le 12 mai 2016 à 18:26, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> a écrit :
> 
> Legally, no. Copyright still applies to abandonware. Whatever the way forward 
> is, we can’t use WO code.
> 
> - hugi
> 
> 
>> On 12. maí 2016, at 16:21, Jean Pierre Malrieu <jp.malr...@free.fr> wrote:
>> 
>> Apple will probably never open source WO.
>> But does the fact that WO is officially « AbandonWare » have consequences 
>> for the TB initiative?
>> 
>> JPM
>> 
>>> Le 3 mai 2016 à 19:13, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> I think it’s good news—at least much better than the 
>>> kind-of-certain-but-not-really uncertainty we’ve had for the past decade or 
>>> so.
>>> 
>>> And I don’t think we should be holding our breath waiting for Apple to open 
>>> source WO. As awesome as that would be, though :).
>>> 
>>> - hugi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 3. maí 2016, at 16:47, Flavio Donadio <fla...@donadio.com.br> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hugi,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That’s bad news, but it’s exactly what we expected, in a certain way. The 
>>>> silence and lack of updates for such a long time were telling us the 
>>>> truth, although we wouldn’t accept it — there had to be a final word, 
>>>> straight from the horse’s mouth! I guess we have it now.
>>>> 
>>>> So, they say WO is dead. We say “long live, WO!"
>>>> 
>>>> We should move on to the next step: nagging Apple to release WO/EOF as 
>>>> open source software! ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Flavio
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 03/05/2016, at 12:19, Hugi Thordarson <h...@karlmenn.is> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We probably all know that WO's been practically dead to Apple for a long 
>>>>> time, but unfortunately Apple has refused to state so officially (at 
>>>>> least I don't recall there being an official statement).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyhow… In the past years I've regularly sent letters to Tim Cook, asking 
>>>>> about the state of WO (being the naggy guy I am) and recently, I was 
>>>>> contacted by Apple executive relations regarding my questions. The guy I 
>>>>> spoke to called a couple of times, at first, he had absolutely no idea 
>>>>> what WO was but the second time he called, he had obtained information 
>>>>> and had a clear statement: "WebObjects is a discontinued product and will 
>>>>> never be upgraded".
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know this information is extremely redundant, but I still wanted to 
>>>>> tell you since it was something of a relief. Felt a little like the 
>>>>> police calling you to let you know that they'd found the remains of your 
>>>>> friend that's been missing for 15 years and finally declared him dead.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But of course, this changes nothing; WO is still better than ever. We 
>>>>> just need to continue to distance Wonder from WO and move forward.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> - hugi
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