The Viking Tradition lives on!

From: David LeBer 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 4:20 PM
To: Chuck Hill <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: WebObjects-Dev 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: WebObjects officially declared dead by Apple

Yeah, I was surprised by that too.

Apple rarely gives definitive statements on anything, let alone a long dead and 
forgotten product ;)

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On May 3, 2016 at 7:11:05 PM, Chuck Hill 
([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>) wrote:

I am surprised that Hugi got a clear statement from Apple. That must have taken 
some persistence! “Frank, this damn Hugi guy keeps bugging us every year, get 
rid of him!”

:-)





On 2016-05-03, 4:04 PM, 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
 on behalf of Pascal Robert" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
 on behalf of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

>
>> Le 3 mai 2016 à 12:47, Flavio Donadio 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
>>
>> Hugi,
>>
>>
>> That’s bad news, but it’s exactly what we expected, in a certain way. The 
>> silence and lack of updates for such a long time were telling us the truth, 
>> although we wouldn’t accept it — there had to be a final word, straight from 
>> the horse’s mouth! I guess we have it now.
>>
>> So, they say WO is dead. We say “long live, WO!"
>>
>> We should move on to the next step: nagging Apple to release WO/EOF as open 
>> source software! ;-)
>
>This topic comes around every year. Multiple people asked this to Apple over 
>the last 7 years. It won’t happen. Final.
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Flavio
>>
>>
>>> On 03/05/2016, at 12:19, Hugi Thordarson 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> We probably all know that WO's been practically dead to Apple for a long 
>>> time, but unfortunately Apple has refused to state so officially (at least 
>>> I don't recall there being an official statement).
>>>
>>> Anyhow… In the past years I've regularly sent letters to Tim Cook, asking 
>>> about the state of WO (being the naggy guy I am) and recently, I was 
>>> contacted by Apple executive relations regarding my questions. The guy I 
>>> spoke to called a couple of times, at first, he had absolutely no idea what 
>>> WO was but the second time he called, he had obtained information and had a 
>>> clear statement: "WebObjects is a discontinued product and will never be 
>>> upgraded".
>>>
>>> I know this information is extremely redundant, but I still wanted to tell 
>>> you since it was something of a relief. Felt a little like the police 
>>> calling you to let you know that they'd found the remains of your friend 
>>> that's been missing for 15 years and finally declared him dead.
>>>
>>> But of course, this changes nothing; WO is still better than ever. We just 
>>> need to continue to distance Wonder from WO and move forward.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> - hugi
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