>>>>> "Laurent" == Laurent Blume <[email protected]> writes:

Mike> But I don't think granting permission is the same as assigning
Mike> responsibility.  I view this more as empowering people to help.

Laurent> I see your point now. I understand how you see it. It will
Laurent> certainly works for exciting, new things like coding. It won't
Laurent> for boring things like translating & proofreading, where
Laurent> motivating people (myself included) takes time.

Fair enough.  But I didn't mean that granting permissions is all that
would be needed.  For things that must happen, someone would need to be
responsible for making sure that the thing does happen.

Mike> My understanding is that while an SCA would be preferred, Section
Mike> 11 of the website Terms Of Use effectively grants Sun a license
Mike> to whatever content a user might post.

Laurent> It's a blanket statement, that's probably so wide-ranging that
Laurent> Sun lawyers have no hope to have it upheld in court if it ever
Laurent> comes to that. Those website TOU have less value than the
Laurent> electrons they're printed on.

Laurent> Having a SCA was explicitly required by Sun for non-Sun
Laurent> employees to provide translations for the website. I think
Laurent> they've got more value, because they cover a narrower,
Laurent> well-defined category of contributions.  

I'd expect the SCA to have more value, simply because it's been signed.
You may be right about the site TOU being unenforcible; I don't have any
knowledge in that area.  But at some point this becomes a risk
management decision (i.e., the benefits of moving forward with the new
implementation versus the risk of problems cropping up as a result of
not having the SCA on file).  Since it's Sun that would be taking the
risk, I think it's Sun's management that gets to make that decision.

Laurent> And from the translation I just did of the new registration
Laurent> form, I understand a SCA will be required there too.

Hmm.  That's news to me.

mike
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