On Sun, 12 Jul 2009, Mike Kupfer wrote:

"Laurent" == Laurent Blume <[email protected]> writes:

Laurent> That view sounds simple, however, the issue is that you're not
Laurent> a Contributor because you edit pages. You're a Contributor
Laurent> because you've been designated as one, as defined by the
Laurent> Constitution.

Well, you're a Contributor because you have been recognized as "having
substantively contributed toward accomplishing the tasks of that
Community Group".[1]  So at the Community Group level, I guess there's a
potential bootstrapping problem, in that one way to contribute is to
help maintain the web presence, but you need Contributor status first.

But in most cases, I'd expect that the person would have gotten
Contributor status by starting out doing something else, like
contributing to a project or participating on mailing lists.  I agree
that it's *possible* that the person wouldn't already have Contributor
status, but I think it unlikely.  So I don't see this as a
serious-enough problem that it would require changes to the initial
XWiki-based deployment.

AFAICS, the Constitution doesn't define what it means to be a project
Contributor.  That leaves it up to the project leaders to decide who's a
(project) Contributor, doesn't it?

Maybe it would help the discussion for Valerie to give more details
about the situations she mentioned (with respect to editing
security-related web pages).

Sorry for the delay, project work has kept me busy.

Specifically, we have a lot of people that we consider "contributors"
or even "core contributors" based  on their contributions to security.
Some are white papers they publish on their own, but using our technology,
others are code contributions, etc.

but we want our web pages to look/feel a certain way, so we only
have a handful of editors.  In fact, one of our editors doesn't
even want contributor status.

Somewhere on this thread, I did see rollback ability being mentioned,
which would help allay some of these fears.

I'm just saying in our practice very few people have edit rights - and
that also varies by project, I believe.

Currently, we have one person working on a major revamp of the site. If
all our contributors were editors, too, that would interfere with her
work.

I've found most people are not interested in updating the main pages
for our site. Perhaps others have different experience?  I wonder what
other facilitators think?

Maybe the worry is unjustified - perhaps most people won't care that
they can edit the pages, because they have other work to do :)

Valerie
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Valerie Fenwick, http://blogs.sun.com/bubbva/ @bubbva
Solaris Security Technologies, Developer, Sun Microsystems, Inc.
17 Network Circle, Menlo Park, CA, 94025.
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