Yes, I certainly suppose that unless the server-based virus scanning
software has access to the private key of the recipient, it would be
impossible for it to read the message and do its "job."  This wouldn't
be a problem for virus scanning done at the desktop e-mail client, since
decryption could be done before the scanning.  In the enterprise,
private keys could be held at the server for decryption so
virus-scanning could be done centrally.  I see no problem with that,
really, considering all e-mail going into and out of the enterprise
using its servers is the property of the organization.

None of this should be interpreted as my endorsement of virus scanners
or spam filters.

William J. Kammerer
Novannet, LLC.
Columbus, US-OH 43221-3859
+1 (614) 487-0320

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terry Swenor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "William J. Kammerer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WEDI SNIP Security
Workgroup List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, 05 November, 2003 08:24 PM
Subject: RE: PHI and emails


Any thoughts on encrypting emails and virus/trojan protection? I've
heard that because the messages are encrypted, the virus scanning
software can't parse the file.

Terry Swenor
Alaska Children's Services

-----Original Message-----
From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:59 PM
To: WEDI SNIP Security Workgroup List
Subject: Re: PHI and emails


Encrypted e-mail using S/MIME under Outlook, Outlook Express or Netscape
Communicator is free and (relatively) easy to use.  Barring use of
S/MIME - because of a stubborn refusal to use what's already on your
computer, or perhaps paranoia about Microsoft or Verisign - maybe PGP is
a second-best alternative.   A third-best alternative would be to
encrypt the Word attachment with PKZIP Professional.  ALL these methods
require that your correspondent give you their digital  certificate
(X.509 in the case of S/MIME and PKZip, PGP otherwise)  so that you can
safely encrypt using her public key.

S/MIME and PGP set the standard for encryption.  If PHI is worth
protecting, why ever would someone not take a little bit of time to
learn how to do it properly?

William J. Kammerer
Novannet, LLC.
Columbus, US-OH 43221-3859
+1 (614) 487-0320

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WEDI SNIP Security Workgroup List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'Terry Swenor'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, 04 November, 2003 06:17 PM
Subject: Re: PHI and emails

I suspected that reading a password-protected .doc would not be as easy
as opening it in Notepad so I tested it with a protected .doc I happened
to have on my hard drive. I scanned the entire content and found that it
was not readable; it appears encrypted, with none of the contents
discernable whatsoever.

When opening a non-password-protected .doc through Notepad, however, I
was able to read the contents so I believe Word encrypts the contents
when protected. The example I used was a .doc created in WordXP,
attempting to read through Notepad/Windows 2000 but I would expect the
same results from all modern versions.

As obtainable as "cracking" software may be, it would certainly be a
decent, though entirely possible, effort to acquire and use the software
to acquire access to someone's PHI.

I think a practice must make a decision whether it is taking sufficient
precautions to protect the PHI in its custody--and this decision may
vary based on the size of the practice, as referred to as the "small
practice" solution. What may be prudent care of PHI for a small medical
practice may *not* be for a hospital or payer. As such (IMHO),
"protecting" PHI with Word password protection would be woefully
inadequate for a large practice/hospital/payer but *might* be reasonable
for a rural/small practice.

Scott Bernay
Business Analyst, Keane Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael S. White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WEDI SNIP Security Workgroup List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'Terry Swenor'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:26 PM
Subject: RE: PHI and emails


Hello Terry:


Take into consideration that a password protected Word document can be
opened in Notepad without knowing the password displaying the content of
the Word document (along with other information). Try it yourself and
you'll see what I mean. Additionally, there are a number of programs
freely available online that will break and/or disclose the password.

Personally, I don't feel password protecting Word documents protects the
information contained therein - PHI or otherwise.

 _____

Michael S. White
Information Systems Specialist
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>I'm soliciting opinions regarding attaching a password protected Word
document to an email as a way of protecting PHI. Of course the
>password would be sent in a different email. Comments?



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