Kepa's message was not a discussion of the quality of its products/services.
Rather, it seemed to me to be a very detailed description of Claredi's
capabilities and ultimately, of one supplier's capabilities pertinent to
analysis and debate of the concepts of testing and certification. If I was a
competitor I would certainly go to school on his message. If other vendors
then wish to describe in similar detail what their capabilities are, the
industry will then become a much more informed consumer...and industry
feedback will only serve to further improve the vendor's products/services
for the good of all.

Personally, I don't think vendors will overly abuse this forum to purely
pitch their products/services, since in doing so would most likely have the
opposite effect of what they wish to have happen....driving potential buyers
away from them rather than bringing buyers to them.

I don't believe that by allowing freer debate, argument, discussion and
disclosure of capabilities will open any floodgates of vendor propaganda,
but rather actually be a force for vendors to engage with the industry in
open discussion to gain agreement on critical concepts and methods with
those who would actually use their solutions. This type of openness is
prevalent and encouraged in many other national and global discussion lists
where standards are actually developed, resulting in much better standards
and solutions.

BTW, what do you mean when you say " . . .it seems the real topic here is to
what extent does analysis need to occur?" Analysis of what? It seems to me
that analysis is exactly what is starting to take place: analysis of what is
testing (truly), what is certification (truly), what should it be (actually)
and most importantly, a forum and venue for the end users (providers and
health plans) to have a voice into these topics. Rather than being afraid of
a bit of commercialism, perhaps we should embrace it. People on this list
are perfectly capable of telling a vendor to "cool it" if they become too
self-serving. I think we should have a little bit of faith in the
discernment and judgment of people here to weed out the snake merchants from
the others.

Rachel Foerster

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From: Marcallee Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:34 AM
To: WEDI SNIP Testing Subworkgroup List
Subject: RE: VALIDATION or Certification


I don't think this is an appropriate use of the list serve.  Though I
understand Kepa's message was in response To Rama's, this kind of email
is too close to a sales pitch.  It gives other vendors no choice but to
respond in kind.  Now, if we want the list to turn into a forum for
vendors to discuss the quality of their products and benefits of its
features in comparison to others, we can make that choice, but unless
we're ready to open the door to everyone with a testing product to plug,
I suggest this discussion change direction.

Whether you call it testing or certification, it seems the real topic
here is to what extent does analysis need to occur?  That's a valid
discussion but product comparisons do not belong here.


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