Matthew,
    I might have included this information:
drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx   578 Jan 23 18:15 .
drwxr-xr-x. 1 root  root   6320 Jan 23 12:06 ..
drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx     8 Jan 19 18:36 bin
drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx   160 Jan 21 12:18 examples
drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx   178 Jan 21 12:18 import
drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx    10 Jan 21 12:18 logrotate.d
drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx    22 Jan 21 12:18 logwatch
drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx    20 Jan 21 12:18 rsyslog.d
drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx    78 Jan 21 12:18 skins
drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx    54 Jan 21 12:18 systemd
drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx    22 Jan 21 12:18 udev
-rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 19474 Jan 23 18:15 weewx.conf
-rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23138 Jan 30  2023 weewx.conf-4.10.1
-rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23146 Jan 19 18:36 weewx.conf-4.10.2-5.0.0
-rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23142 Jun  8  2021 weewx.conf-4.5.1
-rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23137 Feb  6  2022 weewx.conf-4.6.0
-rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23137 Feb 11  2022 weewx.conf-4.6.1
-rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23137 Feb 11  2022 weewx.conf-4.6.2
-rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23137 Mar  5  2022 weewx.conf-4.7.0
-rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23137 Apr 24  2022 weewx.conf-4.8.0
-rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23220 Oct 25  2022 weewx.conf-4.9.1
-rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 19474 Jan 14 12:01 weewx.conf-5.0.0
-rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23138 Feb 23  2023 weewx.conf.prev
-rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 19474 Jan 14 12:01 weewx.conf.rpmnew
-rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23138 Feb 23  2023 weewx.conf.rpmsave

joev.mi
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On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 2:38:38 PM UTC-5 Joseph Verreau wrote:

> Matthew,
>    answers to above:
> 1) located in /usr/lib/systemd/system I have these two:
>  -rw-r--r--. 1 root root  368 Jan 21 12:18  weewx.service
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root  876 Jan 21 12:18  weewx@.service
>
> 2) located in xps13-9305:/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/ I 
> have the following but no weewx files in /etc/init.d or /etc/sysetmd/system
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root   37 Jan 21 12:18 weewx.service -> 
> /usr/lib/systemd/system/weewx.service
>
> 3) xps13-9305:/etc/init.d# grep weewx /etc/passwd
> weewx:x:971:960::/home/weewx:/sbin/nologin
>
> 4) 60-weewx.rules attached
>
> and thank you for your response.
>
> joev.mi
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>
> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 7:20:47 AM UTC-5 matthew wall wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 10:49:43 PM UTC-5 joev...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  My upgrade from 4.10 to 5.0 on my laptop, i.e. not connected to a real 
>> weather station thus running with the simulator device, has actually gone 
>> very nicely but for one puzzling report. I thought installing on my laptop 
>> would better prepare me for installing on my desktop that is actually 
>> connected to my weather station.
>>
>> Jan 23 12:06:12 xps13-9305 systemd-udevd[632]: 
>> /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/60-weewx.rules:4 Unknown group '{weewx}', ignoring.
>>
>>
>> 1) what is User and Group in /usr/lib/systemd/system/weewx.service?
>>
>> 2) do any of these files exist on your system:
>> /etc/systemd/system/weewx.service
>> /etc/init.d/weewx
>> /etc/init.d/weewx-multi
>>  
>> 3) what do you see when you do this: 
>> grep weewx /etc/passwd
>>
>> 4) please post the contents of the file
>> /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/60-weewx.rules
>>
>> installation history:
>>
>> initially installed on this server running fedora in 2014 via the 
>> setup.py method. In 2020 I switched to the dnf repo method. When I first 
>> ran this upgrade to ver 5.0 using dnf upgrade I noticed that I ended up 
>> with the application using root:root for user:group assignments of 
>> directories and files. Reading the installation guide some more I noted 
>> there was a transition to weewx:weewx for those assignments. So I erased 
>> the application then ran dnf install weewx following along the instructions 
>> for fedora versions 34+. That seemed to correct the issue of ownership by 
>> creating the missing user and group. 
>>
>> I don’t observe anything else out of place. My install starts against the 
>> simulator device, and enters the main loop where it updates the database as 
>> I would expect. 
>>
>> Question: does the error reported above as in the journal imply a 
>> mis-configuration? Why is the group weewx identified as unknown?
>>
>>
>> when you upgrade from v4 to v5 using dnf, weewxd should run as 
>> root:root.  this is because the installer will try to respect your previous 
>> installation, and continue to run with the same user and permissions as the 
>> previous install.
>>
>> when you do a new install of v5 using dnf, weewxd should run as 
>> weewx:weewx.
>>
>> note that when you 'erase' an installation with dnf, the database, 
>> located in /var/lib/weewx, will not be deleted.  so if you were to run the 
>> v5 installer at this point, even though it is technically a new install, 
>> because of the /var/lib/weewx with root:root ownership, the 'new' install 
>> will run as root:root.
>>
>> if you saw that v5 was running as root:root, that means you must have 
>> deleted /var/lib/weewx, or changed its permissions.  could you verify this?
>>
>> m
>>
>

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