You are welcome Margaret On Jun 29, 2017 7:17 AM, "Margaret Akulia" <akul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Peter. I just accessed the email below from Aleli. It contains > another great resource with tons of information. Thanks Aleli for this > resource and thank you Data for the validation regarding "walking the talk" > as opposed to "talking the walk" (laughs!!). Bravo Peter for getting set to > sail. You are a great captain! > > Cheers, > > M. Akulia > > > > From: [kobokoandfriendscommunity] <kobokoandfriendscommunity@ > yahoogroups.com> > Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:17 PM > Subject: Re: [kobokoandfriendscommunity] Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation > [1 Attachment] > To: "kobokoandfriendscommun...@yahoogroups.com" < > kobokoandfriendscommun...@yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Dear Akulia, > > A bunch of thanks for sharing the on-going debate/discussion on Eucalyptus > trees in West Nile as to whether they are menace or not. > > Much as the discussion/debate is underway on the net, it's crucial to > approach it [debate] from an informed position. This is very vital because > the issue(s) is/are serious policy issues that have real and serious > implications on people's livelihoods. > > Approaching the conversation from an informed position, certainly, is my > strategy. To that effect, I have attached a document by one expert, Prof. > John Kaboggoza. Hopefully, we can read the document and carry on with the > talk. > > The original document can be reached at the link below: > > http://www.sifi.se/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Forest-plantat > ions-and-woodlots-in-Uganda.pdf > > Regards, > > Aleli. > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Peter Odama <peter.od...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I have drafted a concept paper to be shared and some one enrich it, I >> will share with contacts who are active interested, I always believe in >> actions. Let's hunt for the funds it will not be a one organization's >> affair but consortium of cause with lead partner. >> >> Peter >> >> On Jun 28, 2017 4:48 PM, <cdm...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> This is a great suggestion Margaret! It would be nice if one / or more >>> of our WN academics cld jump on board to lead or co-lead the preparation of >>> the report emanating from the facilitated deliberations. The academic(s) >>> cld then take it further and seek research funds from international >>> agencies such as Canada's International Development Research Centre which >>> supports such kinds of work. >>> >>> www.idrc.ca >>> >>> The IDRC has supported many Ugandan projects and postgraduate students >>> at the Masters and doctoral level before so I wld think they wld entertain >>> such a project. >>> >>> Thank you Alwin for your input as well. >>> >>> With the challenges facing WN, South Sudan and NE Congo, the time has >>> now come for local communities, Government officials, the private sector, >>> civil society, religious leaders, academia, diaspora and international >>> partners to work together to find solutions to these chronic problems. >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Charles >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you Peter for re-opening this topic of Deforestation. You are >>> absolutely right in insinuating that we cannot be the generations that >>> “drop the baton”!! It looks like you (www.worldactionfund.org) have >>> crystalized the way forward and the only component missing is patronage. >>> Thank you Patrick O, Patrick G, John A, Patrick A and CD Male for your >>> contributions. I am confident that we have enough brains in our midst to >>> translate all the ideas discussed into action plans/a proposal that will >>> propel our collective wish. You have provided a lot of additional flesh so >>> why don’t we assemble a team (facilitated by Peter) to put some of these >>> brainwaves on paper so that they don’t fizzle out like many brilliant ideas >>> discussed on this platform. >>> >>> >>> I would offer to tag-team but I am way in over my head with efforts to >>> fund raise for South Sudan’s War Orphans (https://margaretakulia.ca/war >>> -orphans). I will be able to participate once there is a draft though >>> so don’t count me out. In this day and age there is no excuse for >>> neglecting to provide substitutes for the energy and/or building materials >>> provided by trees. In other words, the reason for cutting down trees for >>> domestic use can be nullified!! >>> >>> >>> Everyone can be trained on environmental protection and some of this can >>> be synchronized with more effective and efficient support for refugees and >>> host communities. I am copying Alwin Bubendorfer and looping in my people >>> in Koboko because the more brains we have to tackle this elephant in the >>> room the better. Let’s translate this conversation into action plans!! >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> M. Akulia >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:20 PM, <cdm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Peter. We discussed this issue some years back on kobokonet >>>> where it was mentioned Eucalyptus tree was the worst tree species >>>> introduced in WN. >>>> >>>> We encouraged the gradual replacement of eucalyptus with the teak tree >>>> which for those who were refugees in South Sudan, was the main tree species >>>> supported by the German forestry team. >>>> >>>> The sad thing is that uganda has been independent for nearly 55 years. >>>> We have a ministry responsible for forestry, university faculties that >>>> teach forestry but we still continue to plant the Eucalyptus tree. >>>> >>>> God have mercy... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network. >>>> *From: *Peter Odama >>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 27, 2017 4:15 PM >>>> *To: *A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile >>>> *Reply To: *A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile >>>> *Subject: *Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation >>>> >>>> Friends sorry to say this am not a scientist but i hear that >>>> eucalyptus consumes a lot of moisture, we don't have swamps we still plant >>>> them let's think of local sustainable methods, use your scientific >>>> researched knowledge sustainably to them, I know our Scientists from west >>>> Nile will never ever practice this and preach, but only work for their >>>> salaries and stay comfortably and die alone...... >>>> >>>> On Jun 27, 2017 9:30 PM, "Patrick Anguti" <pangu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> At Letani Forestry Group we carry afforestation for individuals and >>>>> companies. We also have a group tree project where we encourage those >>>>> without land to join so we acquire land jointly and plant for you. >>>>> As per the aspect of eucalyptus, truth is eucalyptus drains water in >>>>> wet areas. They were introduced in Uganda to drain swamps during the >>>>> construction of railway lines to fight malaria. However, there are over >>>>> 600species that apply for different e ecological zones. >>>>> The choice of species matter and this is the reason u have to engage >>>>> professionals to manage your project. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> Patrick Anguti >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 27, 2017 05:24, "Peter Odama" <peter.od...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have a 4 pager afforestation and reforestation concept paper anyone >>>>>> interested can approach me to jointly identify a potential >>>>>> philanthropists >>>>>> or corporate to work with us www worldactionfund. org in the green >>>>>> crusade >>>>>> for West Nile. >>>>>> >>>>>> Patrick individual efforts are OK but this is a huge community >>>>>> habitat it needs awareness education and demonstration which a single >>>>>> effort will be futile like dropping a needle in river Nile, this is a >>>>>> joint >>>>>> anticipated risk already seen on ground that involves ignition and >>>>>> motivation and an eye opener as the entire communities are struggling for >>>>>> food with the effect of climate change in the region. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think alliance is the best option by creating green volunteers for >>>>>> a pilot project in more risky sub counties an impact that can be felt >>>>>> easily. >>>>>> >>>>>> BAT started this initiative some years where some of us benefited to >>>>>> be educated as our parents sale the tobacco cured to the company back >>>>>> after >>>>>> depleting the environment for wood fuel for over 60 years in West Nile, >>>>>> they left no sustainable approach and they have left...more new tobacco >>>>>> companies will continue to cut the remaining wood fuel and disappear >>>>>> leaving us vulnerable "pakalast ". >>>>>> >>>>>> Moreso the increased number of refugees will add more threat to the >>>>>> natural forestry as they are not informed about the risk of cutting >>>>>> natural >>>>>> trees, moreover in South Sudan wildlife or cutting of natural forest in a >>>>>> community is understood from childhood and no one easily downs a tree, >>>>>> they >>>>>> have tough local bye laws, killing an animal can be a disaster for you in >>>>>> South Sudan. But in Uganda it's "Mana" from heaven, I don't care is >>>>>> killing >>>>>> us. >>>>>> >>>>>> A single demonstration in a sub county can cause an impact and >>>>>> involving NFA and communities. >>>>>> >>>>>> Odama >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 26, 2017 21:01, "Patrick Okuni" <paok...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Friends >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It may be difficult for us to directly influence the situation in >>>>>>> the refugee areas; but we can make individual efforts at afforestation >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> different parts of West Nile. Apart from contributing to improving the >>>>>>> environment, trees are a good investment for the long term - in >>>>>>> retirement >>>>>>> or for the next generation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nice week. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Patrick Okuni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 22 June 2017 at 17:39, Peter Odama <peter.od...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Those working and not working and those in Diaspora, should we all >>>>>>>> wait for the desertification in West Nile? due to increased cutting of >>>>>>>> trees more so the huge numbers of refugees we have helped have not been >>>>>>>> trained on environmental protection, we will all suffer the same >>>>>>>> consequences http://www.newvision.co.ug/new >>>>>>>> _vision/news/1456123/refugee-straining-uganda-vegetation-officials. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Me and you need intervention without any foreign support, not even >>>>>>>> to wait for governemnt to replant trees, we all seem less bothered, as >>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>> members in this forum 80% stay in urban areas 5% in diaspora, we only >>>>>>>> visit >>>>>>>> the villages on public holidays, with less impact to the entire >>>>>>>> community >>>>>>>> and spend3-7days with them. It's an eye opener, no aid agency has >>>>>>>> bothered >>>>>>>> to start afforestation processes in refugee settlements, moreso the >>>>>>>> locals >>>>>>>> continue cuttting and clearing the forest at terrible speed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Peter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> WestNileNet mailing list >>>>>>>> WestNileNet@kym.net >>>>>>>> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM >>>>>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >>>>>>>> (including attachments if any). 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