You are welcome Margaret

On Jun 29, 2017 7:17 AM, "Margaret Akulia" <akul...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you Peter. I just accessed the email below from Aleli. It contains
> another great resource with tons of information. Thanks Aleli for this
> resource and thank you Data for the validation regarding "walking the talk"
> as opposed to "talking the walk" (laughs!!). Bravo Peter for getting set to
> sail. You are a great captain!
>
> Cheers,
>
> M. Akulia
>
>
>
> From:  [kobokoandfriendscommunity] <kobokoandfriendscommunity@
> yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [kobokoandfriendscommunity] Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation
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> To: "kobokoandfriendscommun...@yahoogroups.com" <
> kobokoandfriendscommun...@yahoogroups.com>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Akulia,
>
> A bunch of thanks for sharing the on-going debate/discussion on Eucalyptus
> trees in West Nile as to whether they are menace or not.
>
> Much as the discussion/debate is underway on the net, it's crucial to
> approach it [debate] from an informed position. This is very vital because
> the issue(s) is/are serious policy issues that have real and serious
> implications on people's livelihoods.
>
> Approaching the conversation from an informed position, certainly, is my
> strategy. To that effect, I have attached a document by one expert, Prof.
> John Kaboggoza. Hopefully, we can read the document and carry on with the
> talk.
>
> The original document can be reached at the link below:
>
> http://www.sifi.se/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Forest-plantat
> ions-and-woodlots-in-Uganda.pdf
>
> Regards,
>
> Aleli.
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Peter Odama <peter.od...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have drafted a concept paper to be shared and some one enrich it, I
>> will share with contacts who are active interested, I always believe in
>> actions. Let's hunt for the funds it will not be a one organization's
>> affair but consortium of cause with lead partner.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2017 4:48 PM, <cdm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This is a great suggestion Margaret! It would be nice if one / or more
>>> of our WN academics cld jump on board to lead or co-lead the preparation of
>>> the report emanating from the facilitated deliberations‎. The academic(s)
>>> cld then take it further and seek research funds from international
>>> agencies such as Canada's  International Development Research Centre which
>>> supports such kinds of work.
>>>
>>> www.idrc.ca
>>>
>>> ‎The IDRC has supported many Ugandan projects and postgraduate students
>>> at the Masters and doctoral level before so I wld think they wld entertain
>>> such a project.
>>>
>>> Thank you Alwin for your input as well.
>>>
>>> With the challenges facing WN, South Sudan and NE Congo, the time has
>>> now come for local communities, Government officials, the private sector,
>>> civil society, religious leaders, academia, diaspora and international
>>> partners to work together to find solutions to these chronic problems.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you Peter for re-opening this topic of Deforestation. You are
>>> absolutely right in insinuating that we cannot be the generations that
>>> “drop the baton”!! It looks like you (www.worldactionfund.org) have
>>> crystalized the way forward and the only component missing is patronage.
>>> Thank you Patrick O, Patrick G, John A, Patrick A and CD Male for your
>>> contributions. I am confident that we have enough brains in our midst to
>>> translate all the ideas discussed into action plans/a proposal that will
>>> propel our collective wish. You have provided a lot of additional flesh so
>>> why don’t we assemble a team (facilitated by Peter) to put some of these
>>> brainwaves on paper so that they don’t fizzle out like many brilliant ideas
>>> discussed on this platform.
>>>
>>>
>>> I would offer to tag-team but I am way in over my head with efforts to
>>> fund raise for South Sudan’s War Orphans (https://margaretakulia.ca/war
>>> -orphans). I will be able to participate once there is a draft though
>>> so don’t count me out. In this day and age there is no excuse for
>>> neglecting to provide substitutes for the energy and/or building materials
>>> provided by trees. In other words, the reason for cutting down trees for
>>> domestic use can be nullified!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Everyone can be trained on environmental protection and some of this can
>>> be synchronized with more effective and efficient support for refugees and
>>> host communities. I am copying Alwin Bubendorfer and looping in my people
>>> in Koboko because the more brains we have to tackle this elephant in the
>>> room the better. Let’s translate this conversation into action plans!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> M. Akulia
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:20 PM, <cdm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ‎Thanks Peter. We discussed this issue some years back on kobokonet
>>>> where it was mentioned Eucalyptus tree was the worst tree species
>>>> introduced in WN.
>>>>
>>>> We encouraged the gradual replacement of eucalyptus with the teak tree
>>>> which for those who were refugees in South Sudan, was the main tree species
>>>> supported by the German forestry team.
>>>>
>>>> The sad thing is that uganda has been independent for nearly 55 years.
>>>> We have a ministry responsible for forestry, university faculties that
>>>> teach forestry but we still continue‎ to plant the Eucalyptus tree.
>>>>
>>>> God have mercy...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
>>>> *From: *Peter Odama
>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 27, 2017 4:15 PM
>>>> *To: *A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
>>>> *Reply To: *A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WestNileNet] Deforestation
>>>>
>>>>  Friends sorry to say this am not a scientist but i hear that
>>>> eucalyptus consumes a lot of moisture, we don't have swamps we still plant
>>>> them let's think of local sustainable methods, use your scientific
>>>> researched knowledge sustainably to them, I know  our Scientists from west
>>>> Nile will never ever practice this and preach, but only work  for their
>>>> salaries and stay comfortably and die alone......
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 27, 2017 9:30 PM, "Patrick Anguti" <pangu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At Letani Forestry Group we carry afforestation for individuals and
>>>>> companies. We also have a group tree project where we encourage those
>>>>> without land to join so we acquire land jointly and plant for you.
>>>>> As per the aspect of eucalyptus,  truth is eucalyptus drains water in
>>>>> wet areas. They were introduced in Uganda to drain swamps during the
>>>>> construction of railway lines to fight malaria. However,  there are over
>>>>> 600species that apply for different e ecological zones.
>>>>> The choice of species matter and this is the reason u have to engage
>>>>> professionals to manage your project.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Patrick Anguti
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 27, 2017 05:24, "Peter Odama" <peter.od...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a 4 pager afforestation and reforestation concept paper anyone
>>>>>> interested can approach me to jointly identify a potential 
>>>>>> philanthropists
>>>>>> or corporate to work with us www worldactionfund. org in the green 
>>>>>> crusade
>>>>>> for West Nile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrick individual efforts are OK but this is a huge community
>>>>>> habitat it needs awareness education and demonstration which a single
>>>>>> effort will be futile like dropping a needle in river Nile, this is a 
>>>>>> joint
>>>>>> anticipated risk already seen on ground that involves ignition and
>>>>>> motivation and an eye opener as the entire communities are struggling for
>>>>>> food with the effect of climate change in the region.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I think alliance is the best option by creating green volunteers for
>>>>>>  a pilot project in more risky sub counties an impact that can be felt
>>>>>> easily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BAT started this initiative some years where some of us benefited to
>>>>>> be educated as our parents sale the tobacco cured to the company back 
>>>>>> after
>>>>>> depleting the environment for wood fuel for over 60 years in West Nile,
>>>>>> they left no sustainable approach and they have left...more new tobacco
>>>>>> companies will continue to cut the remaining wood fuel and disappear
>>>>>> leaving us vulnerable "pakalast ".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Moreso the increased number of refugees will add more threat to the
>>>>>> natural forestry as they are not informed about the risk of cutting 
>>>>>> natural
>>>>>> trees, moreover in South Sudan wildlife or cutting of natural forest in a
>>>>>> community is understood from childhood and no one easily downs a tree, 
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> have tough local bye laws, killing an animal can be a disaster for you in
>>>>>> South Sudan. But in Uganda it's "Mana" from heaven, I don't care is 
>>>>>> killing
>>>>>> us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A single demonstration in a sub county can cause an impact and
>>>>>> involving NFA and communities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Odama
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2017 21:01, "Patrick Okuni" <paok...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Friends
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It may be difficult for us to directly influence the situation in
>>>>>>> the refugee areas; but we can make individual efforts at afforestation 
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> different parts of West Nile. Apart from contributing to improving the
>>>>>>> environment, trees are a good investment for the long term - in 
>>>>>>> retirement
>>>>>>> or for the next generation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patrick Okuni
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22 June 2017 at 17:39, Peter Odama <peter.od...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those working and not working and those in Diaspora, should we all
>>>>>>>> wait for the desertification in  West Nile? due to increased cutting of
>>>>>>>> trees more so the huge numbers of refugees we have helped have not been
>>>>>>>> trained on environmental protection, we will all suffer the same
>>>>>>>> consequences http://www.newvision.co.ug/new
>>>>>>>> _vision/news/1456123/refugee-straining-uganda-vegetation-officials.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Me and you need intervention without any foreign support, not even
>>>>>>>> to wait for governemnt to replant trees, we all seem less bothered, as 
>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>> members in this forum 80% stay in urban areas 5% in diaspora, we only 
>>>>>>>> visit
>>>>>>>> the villages on public holidays, with less impact to the entire 
>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>> and spend3-7days with them. It's an eye opener, no aid agency has 
>>>>>>>> bothered
>>>>>>>> to start afforestation processes in refugee settlements, moreso the 
>>>>>>>> locals
>>>>>>>> continue cuttting and clearing the forest at terrible speed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>
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