Igor Vaynberg wrote:
allow myself to quote...myself
|| imho, html is the best layout manager out there for browser apps. add
css to the mix and you have a great skin manager as well.
i never said css was great for layout manager :) and yes the box model
is broken.
The box model really is broken. Therefore I always stick with IE box model
* {
box-sizing: border-box;
-moz-box-sizing: border-box;
}
The only thing to take care of is not to allow IE6 to work in
standard-compliance mode. So far, I had no problems with this setup. I'm
doing quite complicated layouts using just css (no tables) and
everything works fine. I just hope that IE7 won't screw everything up.
-Matej
-Igor
On 5/17/06, *Johan Compagner* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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ha! and css is easier then layout manager in java...
hmm that is not how i see it.
CSS is just plain horrible stupid box thing..
And what is a layout manager in css? There isn't one everything is
sort of absoluut positioned and then you can do in swing also
(not recommended ofcourse)
johan
On 5/17/06, *Igor Vaynberg* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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imho, html is the best layout manager out there for browser
apps. add css to the mix and you have a great skin manager as well.
the one thing you always hear swing developers bitching about is
how they have to fight the layout managers to get the results
they want. gridbaglayout is poweful but its a huge pain to work
with.
matisse+grouplayout are the holy grail for swing devels, its
nice and easy to create layouts. but it still requires a gui to
do this, while i can do html easily by hand. also browser screen
space doesnt translate easily to the desktop space. in desktop
space you are pixel aware, you are also pixel aware of your
fonts and the south east corner of the window. in html you have
none of these things.
look at wingS framework examples, they use layout managers. look
how rectangular their examples look.
-Igor
On 5/17/06, *Frank Silbermann * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I, personally, don't care for HTML, and perhaps I might enjoy
programming in Echo2 better.
But suppose an employer maintained an HTML fragment with
links to their
entire portfolio of web applications, and wanted this
fragment to appear
on every page of each web application. Since someone else is
maintaining that scrap and keeping it up-to-date, I would
not want to
translate it into Echo 2 and maintain my own copy.
Would it not likely be easier to incorporate such an HTML
scrap into a
Wicket application, versus one written in a framework such
as Echo 2
that abstracted away the HTML completely?
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> It's certainly an intriguing idea (have a look at haxe.org
<http://haxe.org> if you find
> it interesting), ...
...
Yeah. I see some advantages of using layout managers -
basically the
same promise as Swing has - but currently I would still
prefer using
HTML for layout. If I would like the GWT way of developing
applications, I would have choosen Echo 2 a long time ago.
GWT looks
like a next gen Echo to me, though with a very big name
behind it, and
some cool innovations. ... Eelco
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