Or maybe there will be more trade offs. Depends on how badly people
want it, and who will work on it. In 2.0, Johan built in a form that
posts back to a bookmarkable page, so you can even build pages with
forms that are still stateless.

Eelco


On 6/13/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's not in 2.0 and I don't think it will be. Before you know it we
> will be doing premature optimization everywhere. Those stateless
> optimizations make sense for some cases, but for the rest, Wicket
> should focus on it's strong points: being OO and statefull. If we
> would have liked the way Tapestry and .NET handle things (because that
> is the way we would be heading), we wouldn't have had the need for
> Wicket. The cost for the stateful programming model is memory
> consumption. Cost doesn't equal problem here though.
>
> We *might* give client state saving another go. Or not, as none as the
> core team members is convinced at this point it's better than the
> server side model we currently have, and of the several applications
> in production that I know of, memory consumption hasn't been a problem
> at all.
>
> Eelco
>
>
> On 6/13/06, John Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Just a quick question about how this will work in 2.0;  is it
> > possible to have a page that has a normal link with an onClick
> > handler which is not stored in the session?
> >
> > In this case the link target would need to specify both the
> > BookmarkablePage and the Listener to call and when the target is
> > invoked it would need to instantiate the page and then call the
> > handler onClick method.  So the page would be created twice but
> > probably rendered once.
> >
> > On 13 Jun 2006, at 03:07, Eelco Hillenius wrote:
> >
> > > Anyway, there is a solution for it now... deferred session creation
> > > :). It's in 2.0, didn't make 1.2 unfortunately, as it would mean two
> > > API breaks, but it is scheduled for 1.3 whenever that comes out (I
> > > guess that depends on how badly people want it) and you can apply the
> > > patch I sent earlier for 1.2.
> > >
> > > Eelco
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/12/06, Alexandru Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >>>> Unfortunately this is not completely accurate information.
> > >>>
> > >>> I was writing about my experience and I wrote it down accurately.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Timo, sorry if you found my comments as offending. There was no
> > >> such intention.
> > >>
> > >>> The session id is stripped from the link in the search result
> > >>> page. At
> > >>> least in the cases I had to deal with. That means that the user
> > >>> doesn't
> > >>> get a message like "session expired".
> > >>
> > >> Probably, I am missunderstanding the "session id is stripped from the
> > >> link in the search result page" part. I can see it there, and so the
> > >> user request will go to the /tralala;jsessionid=value.
> > >>
> > >> For me stripped from the link means: the link will not contain the
> > >> jsessionid part. But this is not true. It is there. Indeed the
> > >> application may continue to work correctly as it may create a new
> > >> session (so no error message will be displayed), but this is
> > >> something
> > >> that happens on the application side and not on the search engine
> > >> side.
> > >>
> > >> hth,
> > >>
> > >> ./alex
> > >> --
> > >> .w( the_mindstorm )p.
> > >>
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