hi,
oops! first a correction:
"Struts seems heavy on the java-code required for things that are pretty
simple with Struts" should have read "Wicket seems heavy on the
java-code required for things that are pretty simple with Struts2"
Struts 2 is a complete re-wite... yes and no. It's nothing like struts
1.x . But it's pretty much a re-branded version of WebWorks. In other
words the Struts team marketing strategy worked: Use a well known name
and put something else behind it.
regards,
florian
Matej Knopp wrote:
But you've decided to use struts2. Struts 2 is a complete rewrite,
it's different than struts 1.
-Matej
On 6/5/07, Florian Hehlen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
The 3 key arguments against wicket were:
-It will be easier to hire someone with Struts knowledge on top of the fact
that we have some in-house knowledge with it.
-Struts is the de-facto standard with a lot of
community/vendor/documentation support
-Struts seems heavy on the java-code required for things that are pretty
simple with struts
I agree that it was not a pure technology issue in the end and that the
comparison was not purely on technical capabilities. The ability to build
clean self-contained components as wicket allows was not at all appreciated.
They did not see the potential for us to build our own custom components on
top. Oddly enough that was seen as an "improper separation of concern"
because then java is used for presentation aspects like layout. Frankly I
think this is an idea that has been manufactured by other frameworks to sell
their scattered technology/markup/syntax framework approaches.
I have dabbled with other frameworks and thought that for default behavior
it would be nice not to have a line of code per label in a table. There was
a comment that there is different handling in a DataView. But is that true?
I have used them and I had to add new Label(...) in the populateItem()
method.
anyways... what can you do... I still think wicket is a pretty dam good
framework.
thanks,
florian
Peter Thomas wrote:
I am sad to announce that my company did not choose to use wicket after
comparison with struts 2. :-(
One criticism that came out as we were looking at Wicket code was that
there seems to be a need to write a lot of Java code in a ListView for
such things as displaying a table. Although I did not see this issue as
out-weighing all the benefits, many of my colleagues did.
All I'll say is that I'm personally sure this is not about technology -
this has to be politics, and these colleagues must have already learnt
Struts2 and want to protect their investment or have the misconception that
Struts2 == Struts1. Or maybe they were swayed by some presentation that
used job search statistics to compare web ui frameworks...
Sometimes it is a waste of time to try and convince people. Been there
done that. Just move on.
Regards,
Peter.
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