>> To clarify: it's incorrect that Wikiversity is not focused on
>> research; research is one of the core focuses of Wikiversity,
>> complementing learning resources and learning activities. Just like
>> other learning 'institutions', research is seen as an educational
>> activity, and as a driver of further knowledge and resources. It's
>> always been a core focus to get researchers (including, but not
>> limited to, on wikis) together on Wikiversity - to share and discuss
>> each other's work, and to collaborate on further work. However, I
>> admit this isn't so clear from the main page, so I'll edit that now. :-)
>>
>> Conversely, I'd also like a bit more clarity on what WikiScience aims
>> to do, and how it aims to do it. For example, it seems that there is
>> an explicit aim to integrate other tools alongside a wiki in this work
>> - is that right? It would be good, in general, to expand on its scope
>> and vision - as well as an indication of the
>> activity/people/organisation behind it so far. That might help set a
>> foundation for further development and collaboration. ;-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Cormac

Ok now... I didn't mean to say that research how no place at Wikiversity - I was
just under the impression that it's not the main focus. But I may be wrong 
there.

In my mind, comparing the proposed research wiki to Wikiversity is odd, because
Wikiversity is so much broader in scope. Comparing it to Wikiversitie's
"Wikimedia Studies" portal
<http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Wikimedia_Studies> makes more sense to
me. And there is indeed some overlap.

Now, I don't know exactly what Filipe has in mind, but from what I understand of
Wikiversity, and what I would like WikiScience to be, here are the main points I
see for WikiScience:

* It would be a place to write abut individual projects, wiki engines,
frameworks, etc.
* WikiScience would be a place to collect, share and document individual tools
and libraries.
* WikiScience would offer additional services, such as a dedicated news feed or
a mailing list (though perhaps Wiki-research-l is sufficient, if we replace
"Wikimedia" in the title by "Wiki"). Maye there could even be a repository for
code and data.
* Bibliographies would of course also be important -- though I also see that for
Wikiversity. Maybe they could be federated somehow? (btw, cooperation with the
openlibrary is currently pondered)

In short, I imagine  WikiScience would be the place for me to go when I want to
find a tool for a specific task, or discuss experiences with specific problems
with fellow researchers. While Wikiversity is where I would go when I want to
get an overview of the results of research done on wikis, to "learn about
wikis". Also, by nature, Wikiversity focuses on wikimedia, while WikiScience
would not automatically -- though of course Wikipedia is the most common
research subject.

Anyway... I don't think the effort is redundant, just like Wookipedia is not
redundant to Portal:Star_Wars. But we should of course be careful not to
fragment community and content. So, let's cooperate and work on making these
things *complementary*.

-- daniel

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