+1 Jodi!

I agree it would be great to experiment on-site as you suggest

Claudia

On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:39:34 +0000, Jodi Schneider wrote
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Ward Cunningham <w...@c2.com> wrote:
> 
> > I wonder if a better place to innovate might be in the conduct of
> > research, rather than the reporting, review and publication of research?
> >
> 
> +1*
> 
> Regarding the existing conversation, if we want a journal, we need to ask
> what the purpose is.
> 
> I'd highly recommend Jason Priem's notion of the "decoupled journal"
> [1][2]. Jason points out that journals have been used for four main
> purposes, historically:
> 
>    1. Registration
>    2. Archiving
>    3. Dissemination
>    4. Certification
> 
> Decoupling these functions is the way forward for scholarly communication.
> And it's already been happening -- with ArXiV, SSRN, Math Overflow, ... and
> new ways of measuring research impact [3]. So which function(s) matter most
> to us?
> 
> We can ask:
> 
> (1) What can wikis do for the registration, archiving, and/or dissemination
> functions, better than existing technologies?
> 
> (2) How can wikis contribute to altmetrics [3] used for certification
> functions?
> 
> (3) How can we as a community surface the most interesting and powerful
> research? What technologies do we need? What social habits do we need?
> 
> (4) And, finally, how can our answers to #3 contribute to the certification
> we value? (Prestige, publications counting for tenure, ...)
> 
> I think rather than trying to create a high profile, high impact
> traditional journal, if we focused on these and similar questions, we would
> both move wiki research forward, and drive scientific communication itself
> forward.
> 
> -Jodi
> 
> * of course, reporting and doing research aren't an either/or -- they're
> closely related and one drives the other
> 
> [1] Jason Priem at Purdue:
> video
> http://youtu.be/OM22JuiWYgE
> slides
> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=ddfg787c_362f465q2g5
> I've written a short summary here:
> http://jodischneider.com/blog/2012/11/04/altmetrics-can-help-surface-
> quality-content-jason-priem-on-the-decoupled-journal-as-the-achievable-
> future-of-scholarly-communication/
> 
> [2] Also a draft article called "Decoupling the scholarly journal" by Jason
> Priem and Bradley M. Hemminger, under review for the Frontiers in
> Computational Neuroscience special issue "Beyond open access: visions for
> open evaluation of scientific papers by post-publication peer review"
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xDOy9GXXrUFc9TUIR2C470DTau8JEgZ9k-SMNIx5pb8/edit?
hl=en_US&authkey=CMeCqOYD
> 
> [3] http://altmetrics.org


thanks & cheers,
Claudia
koltzenb...@w4w.net


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