Kerry,

We stated the research asking for these details and changed it to not
mandatory a week later considering feedback we got. Could be the you filled
it out before it was changed. If there's anything you'd like deleted,
please let me kniw privately.

Shani.

On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 03:25 Kerry Raymond <kerry.raym...@gmail.com wrote:

> Other personal details did appear to be mandatory. For me, trying leave a
> page without answering some of the personal questions caused them to
> display with a pink background saying it was mandatory in red. That was my
> experience.
>
> Kerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wiki-research-l [mailto:wiki-research-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org]
> On Behalf Of Shani Evenstein
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2018 9:02 AM
> To: wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Invitations to participate in a research
> about Wikidata as a learning platform
>
> Hello, Stuart.
>
> Thank you for your feedback. A few comments on what you wrote --
>
> * With the exception of username & email (which are mandatory), all the
> other personal details are not, so it is up to participants to decide on
> their level of interaction and involvement. Some people are happy to share
> the information requested, some less so.
>
> * Every single piece of data collected is related to a research
> question(s).  As an example, one part of the questionnaire focuses on
> community and how it influences learning. For this part specifically, we
> wanted to check (among other things) for a correlation between online
> activity on WD and participation in various social media platforms, such as
> the WD Facebook group and the telegram group, so a cross between the
> username and real name is needed. That does not suit everyone, and that's
> fine, but it's a question we'd like to answer and are therefore collecting
> this information from those willing to provide it.
>
> * Not sure which "similar surveys" you are comparing this research to, but
> there was never any similar research about Wikidata. Even the ones I know
> of about Wikipedia, also do not research for exactly what I'm researching.
> That said, many research papers I've read that deal with learners, try to
> infer from personal data such as age, occupation, gender etc. This is not
> uncommon and the terms of confidentiality were expressed clearly.
>
> * When you write, "the overview suggests that further pages are going to
> ask for more personal information", that is absolutely right.
> Every single question in this questionnaire is asking participants about
> their *personal experience* engaging with Wikidata as a learning platform,
> making it personal information. I'm unsure why you find that problematic.
> That is what questionnaires do. They ask participants about their
> experience with X.
>
> Finally, our community never had any similar research done on Wikidata,
> especially not in relation to Education, and I have naturally asked for the
> community's support.
> This research cannot happen without the community. It reply on it heavily,
> unlike other (and very popular) "big data" approaches.
> There are various way in which the community demonstrated its support --
> some chose to fill out the questionnaire; some even agreed to participate
> in a follow up interview; some would not fill it out themselves, but have
> shared it with their local communities; some simply sent some good words
> and 'good luck' my way; and some sent me (welcome) feedback on things to
> improve.  They did so (and continue to do so) because they know it's an
> important topic, and I'd like to believe that it's also because they know
> me and trust me. They know that being part of the community, I will do
> whatever I can to use the information they shared with me for the good and
> for creating positive impact in Academia (which I have done for years with
> Wikipedia and now with Wikidata).
>
> While I do not expect anyone to show support blindly, I do find your
> message a bit puzzling -- weather you meant it or not, your mail suggests
> that your are unsupportive of this research and your tone was dismissive,
> without portraying the situation accurately, nor by checking the details
> properly.
> That is your prerogative, as is not filling out the questionnaire. But I
> would urge you to reconsider.
> Take a closer look. Assume good faith. And you'll find that once you pass
> the personal info part, the questions are not at all intrusive, but rather
> focused, genuine, inquisitive and most importantly -- focused on the
> Wikidata experience you've had.
>
> In short, I hope you reconsider. If you don't, that's fine as well.
>
> Shani.
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> *Shani Evenstein Sigalov*
> EdTech Innovation Strategist, NY/American Medical Program, Sackler School
> of Medicine, Tel Aviv University.
> PhD Candidate, School of Education, Tel Aviv University.
> Lecturer, Tel Aviv University.
> Chairperson, WikiProject Medicine Foundation <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Project_Med>.
> Chairperson, Wikipedia & Education User Group <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_%26_Education_User_Group>.
> Chairperson, The Hebrew Literature Digitization Society <
> http://www.israelgives.org/amuta/580428621>.
> Chief Editor, Project Ben-Yehuda <http://bybe.benyehuda.org>.
> *+972-525640648*
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 11:52 PM Stuart A. Yeates <syea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I find the personal information requested particularly intrusive
> > compared to other similar surveys (and the overview suggests that
> > further pages are going to ask for more personal information),
> > especially since the cover page does not mention any ethics board
> > approval (not sure if this is required in Israel).
> >
> > Do you really have a plan for evaluating the responses that requires
> > all this information? If not, why are you collecting it?
> >
> > As it stand I'll not be answering this survey.
> >
> > cheers
> > stuart
> >
> > --
> > ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 10:14, Shani Evenstein <shani.e...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, Leila!
> > > Not sure why this happened with the link, but happy you found one
> > > that works.  :)
> > >
> > > Shani.
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------------
> > > *Shani Evenstein Sigalov*
> > > EdTech Innovation Strategist, NY/American Medical Program, Sackler
> > > School of Medicine, Tel Aviv University.
> > > PhD Candidate, School of Education, Tel Aviv University.
> > > Lecturer, Tel Aviv University.
> > > Chairperson, WikiProject Medicine Foundation
> > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Project_Med>.
> > > Chairperson, Wikipedia & Education User Group
> > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_%26_Education_User_Group>.
> > > Chairperson, The Hebrew Literature Digitization Society
> > > <http://www.israelgives.org/amuta/580428621>.
> > > Chief Editor, Project Ben-Yehuda <http://bybe.benyehuda.org>.
> > > *+972-525640648*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 11:00 PM Leila Zia <le...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Shani and all,
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:27 AM Shani Evenstein
> > > > <shani.e...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Wiki-researchers,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a huge favor to ask of everyone in this mailing list --
> > > > >
> > > > > TLDR: *please fill out* *this questionnaire <
> > > >
> > https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/%E2%80%8Bhttps://goo.gl/forms/WMFb6j2
> > mpG2HwFTx2
> > !
> > > > !>!*
> > > >
> > > > There is something about the above link that doesn't work. I
> > > > /think/ you meant to share:
> > > >
> > > >
> > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc_h3LPcPgM2V3W5tNdRdWjw3ayRU
> > q73nD0HyhVz07SKwE0Hw/viewform
> > > >
> > > > Good luck with your research! :)
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Leila
> > > >
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