Hi Everyone, Thank you very much for all the replies and insight. Thanks WSC for sharing your experience. I've been using the call https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=ids&titles=Zayn%20Malik|NonexistentPage|Draft:Kajl%C3%A2ngvoj <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=ids&titles=Zayn%20Malik%7CNonexistentPage%7CDraft:Kajl%C3%A2ngvoj> for a while now to get articles and always wondered what 'missing' meant exactly. Great to have confirmation it means deleted/gone.
Thanks again and have a great weekend! Sincerely, Doris Zhou On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 8:00 AM WereSpielChequers < werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote: > Just to add a little further complexity. > > Lots of articles and deleted articles are about people. Names are often not > unique, and just because one person with a particular name has had an > article on them deleted it does not mean that there won't be a notable > person of the same name. > > For example I was once asked to restore a particular deleted article so > that someone could look at the deleted version before creating an article > on a professor who they assured me was very notable and they had plenty of > sources for. I had a look at the deleted article, and told them I doubted > there was anything there worth restoring, and to go ahead with the article > on the professor. I also added that I didn't know if the deleted article > was about the same person or a different person of the same name, but if > they found that their professor had been a pro skateboarder in his teens, I > suggested they give that its own section, and not make that his main claim > to notability or have it dominate the lede. In another instance I resolved > an edit war over whether an article should be about either of two people > of the same name by deleting the article, restoring all the versions that > were about person A and moving them to a new clearer name, then restoring > the other revisions and moving them to a page with a name that made it > clear they were about person B, then I turned the original > battleground article into a disambiguation page that listed both people. > That would be a rare situation compared to redirects, but I hope it gives > you an idea of the complexity of Wikipedia article names over time. > > When there are multiple topics with the same name the default should be > that the primary one gets the name with the secondary topics getting longer > names and a mention in a disambiguation page. There are people who get very > concerned as to which if any article should be primary, and while sometimes > that is as obvious as Dallas, Scotland v Dallas, Texas, other times that > can be contentious and even be changed over time. I can remember heated > arguments about Perth Scotland v Perth Australia and I dread to think how > the Mercury, Atlas and Apollo decisions were made. > > TLDR Names of articles don't just go through a process of deletion > > WSC > > On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 at 18:30, Adam Wight <adam.wi...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > > > Going back to your original question, > > > > > which articles are no longer on Wikipedia > > > > This is easy enough to query in bulk: > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=ids&titles=Zayn%20Malik|NonexistentPage|Draft:Kajl%C3%A2ngvoj > <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=ids&titles=Zayn%20Malik%7CNonexistentPage%7CDraft:Kajl%C3%A2ngvoj> > > < > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=ids&titles=Zayn%20Malik%7CNonexistentPage%7CDraft:Kajl%C3%A2ngvoj > > > > > > The first page exists, but the other two never existed and were deleted, > > respectively. Both missing articles have a "missing" key in the response > > data, which you can rely on for determining if the articles exist. > > > > It sounds like this is what you needed, and maybe the inconsistencies > were > > due to non-Latin character encoding issues? Let me know if I > > misunderstood, and you also need to know whether the page used to exist > but > > was deleted. > > > > Regards, > > Adam W. > > > > On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 7:12 PM D Z <doriszhou1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I am still unclear on how to know definitely for sure that an article > was > > > deleted. It seems like the only way is to tell through the comments. > For > > > example, this call: > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=logevents&leaction=delete/delete&letitle=Zayn%20Malik > > > shows the comment "[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Louis Tomlinson]]" > > > which I have noticed to exist for other articles that were successfully > > > deleted, but the article "Zayn Malik" exists. The most recent event > has > > > the comment > > > "[[WP:CSD#G6|G6]]: Deleted to make way for move" which would imply the > > > other deletions weren't successful but the article still exists. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Doris > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 3:20 AM Adam Wight <adam.wi...@wikimedia.de> > > wrote: > > > > > > > On 11/4/21 8:09 AM, D Z wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Adam, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. The qitem api returns missing for this > article > > > but > > > > > the article exists: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&format=json&sites=eswiki&titles=Playas%20de%20L%C2%B4Atalaya%20y%20Focar%C3%B3n&normalize=1 > > > > > > > > > > The Wikipedia page link > > > > > < > https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playas_de_L%27Atalaya_y_Focar%C3%B3n> > > > is > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > It seems that the issue is the apostrophe after "L", in the wikidata > > > > query it is "´" and the wikipedia link above uses "'". Maybe > something > > > > in your query script is normalizing the fancy apostrophe to a simple > > > > one? I would check for proper UTF-8 handling. > > > > > > > > > Would you know if there is a way to input article revision ID or > > pageid > > > > > instead of source title for the logevents API? The strings seem to > be > > > > > problematic at times. > > > > > > > > This was prescient :-). But I don't see any record of the article > > being > > > > deleted, so perhaps the API is correct in this case? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=Rodrigo+Flores+Álvarez&wpdate=&tagfilter= > <https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=Rodrigo+Flores+%C3%81lvarez&wpdate=&tagfilter=> > > < > https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=Rodrigo+Flores+%C3%81lvarez&wpdate=&tagfilter= > > > > > < > > > https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=Rodrigo+Flores+%C3%81lvarez&wpdate=&tagfilter= > > > > > > > < > > > > > > https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=Rodrigo+Flores+%C3%81lvarez&wpdate=&tagfilter= > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, the API help page doesn't mention filtering the log by > > > > page ID. One approach you might consider is to download the entire > log > > > > history, then process it locally to filter by page ID. > > > > > > > > Help page: > > > > > > > > > > https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=query%2Blogevents > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Adam W. > > > > [[mw:User:Adamw] > > > > > > > > > For example, the article 'Rodrigo Flores Álvarez' of > > > > > 'pt' Wikipedia gives me trouble (I got this article from the > > > > cxtranslation > > > > > list). This page seems to be missing > > > > > <https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodrigo_Flores_%C3%81lvarez> and > > > perhaps > > > > I > > > > > am not using the logevents API correctly, but it returns empty. > > > > > > > > > > {'batchcomplete': '', 'query': {'logevents': []}} > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > endpoint = str('pt') + '.wikipedia.org/w/api.php' > > > > > query_url = "https://{0}".format(endpoint) > > > > > params = {} > > > > > params['action'] = 'query' > > > > > params['list'] = 'logevents' > > > > > params['format'] = 'json' > > > > > params['leaction'] = 'delete/delete' > > > > > params['letitle'] = 'Rodrigo Flores Álvarez' > > > > > json_response = requests.get(url=query_url, params=params).json() > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again and cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Doris Zhou > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 9:51 AM Adam Wight < > adam.wi...@wikimedia.de> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> The "logevents" API should return the same data as Special:Log. > For > > > > >> example, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=logevents&letitle=Category:Recipients%20of%20the%20Order%20of%20the%20Tower%20and%20Sword > > > > >> > > > > >> This can be filtered further to just delete events, and so on. > > > > >> > > > > >> But if you only want to know whether an article exists or not, > > > "missing" > > > > >> should be accurate. Can you share some example URLs for which the > > > page > > > > >> exists, but the API returns "missing"? > > > > >> > > > > >> Kind regards, > > > > >> Adam W. > > > > >> > > > > >> On 10/27/21 3:40 AM, D Z wrote: > > > > >>> Hello All, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I am doing research investigating the role of machine translation > > in > > > > >>> Wikipedia articles. I am having trouble with how to know if an > > > article > > > > >> has > > > > >>> been deleted from Wikipedia. Specifically, I am getting a list of > > > > >> articles > > > > >>> from the cxtranslation list and I would like to know which > articles > > > are > > > > >> no > > > > >>> longer on Wikipedia. I see that there is the deletion log form > > > > >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/delete> but is there > an > > > API > > > > >> or > > > > >>> some way to access something like this form so I could check if a > > > mass > > > > >>> amount of articles have been deleted? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I have used the Media Wiki API < > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php > > > > > > to > > > > >> get > > > > >>> articles and the API returns missing for some articles, but this > > does > > > > not > > > > >>> seem to be fully accurate for determining if an article has been > > > > deleted > > > > >>> because the API has returned 'missing' for articles that do > exist. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> To summarize, my main question is: given an article language > > edition > > > > and > > > > >>> article title, or an article pageid, is there an API to check if > > the > > > > >>> article has been deleted? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Thanks, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Doris Zhou > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >>> Wiki-research-l mailing list -- > > wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > >>> To unsubscribe send an email to > > > > >> wiki-research-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> Wiki-research-l mailing list -- > wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > >> To unsubscribe send an email to > > > > wiki-research-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list -- > wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > > > wiki-research-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list -- wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > > wiki-research-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list -- wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > wiki-research-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > > > > -- > > Adam Wight - Developer - Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. - > https://wikimedia.de > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiki-research-l mailing list -- wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > wiki-research-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list -- wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wiki-research-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list -- wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wiki-research-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
