Le 2013-04-05 09:32, Gregor Hagedorn a écrit :
On 4 April 2013 22:23, Michael Hale <hale.michael...@live.com> wrote:
trench, then I just want to update it on Wikidata, and then every
article
that references it will be updated. I don't want to have to update
it on
Wikidata and then go do a null edit on every article that uses that
information.
You are correct, the "current version" would have to be an exception,
and display under the current time rules just as in the
implementation. My proposal only makes sense when versions from the
history are being displayed.
Gregor
Do you also plane to add a "source" relation? I mean, a statement is
necessarily stated somewhere before it comes into the db. Some statement
could have an empty field for this relation, but it should be a "need
fix" state.
I don't believe in "timeless universal statement". Sure there are
statements that everybody would agree. But this mean we should have no
difficulty to find some references where you can find this statement
claimed. Also we should keep in mind that what we can sincerely perceive
as universal truth, may well be a cognitive/cultural bias.
To resume, Wikidata should not be a statements database, but a
statements on statements database. That is, "we claim that this
paper/person/source claims that" and not "we claim that". As said, we
don't have to make it a necessary requirement and an entry without such
a source may be taken as "someone (see history) reported there's a used
statement which claims 'blablabla', but we have no source to support
this statement".
It's even more important with historical statements. Past history is
not something which can't be falsifyed: it's something that some groups
may even actively want to distort. In France for example it's illegal to
claim revisionism statements, that is to claim that there was no
Holocaust during World War II, because there are groups that actively
defend such a these. But you can't rely on such a legal mean to prevent
governemental history distortions, and it prevent people to train their
critical mind. So to my mind it's better to be able to know who claim
what, so anyone can judge by itself if some conflict of interest are
involved or not.
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