On 5 April 2013 20:05, Michael Hale <hale.michael...@live.com> wrote:
> The thing to remember is that the history of a page is the history of the
> wiki markup for the page, not the history of the rendered HTML. It would be
> misleading if edits were shown in the markup history for an article each
> time a template or Wikidata item changed because reverting the markup to
> that version wouldn't actually revert the change. I think what curators with
> specific specialties want is the ability to automatically expand their
> watchlist to include all templates and data items that could affect their
> watched pages. Then a way to view the merged watchlists from multiple
> projects would be helpful. There is room for improvement in global account
> integration. For example, I just noticed that I need to set my timezone on
> Wikipedia and Wikidata independently.
I partly agree, the ideal situation is that
a) changes of wikidata (and perhaps templates, and perhaps images,
with decreasing necessity in practice) show in the page history
b) in the diff, such changes are shown separately from the changes of
the wikitext itself, but with the same action. This can be achieved by
showing the affected changes after a separation line below the
wikitext diff.
However, since this was rejected previsously as undoable, the
expansion of {{#property: to include the current value would be a
work-around.
We perhaps disagree about the priorities. I believe Wikipedia editors
are not primarily keen on the technical definition of the diff as the
changes of the wikitext of the database. I believe they want and need
transparency about when an who changed a specific topic they care
about.
Gregor
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