Hello *Really* not meaning to jump down any http-range-14 rabbit holes but wasn't there a plan for wikidata to have uris representing things and pages about those things?
From conversations on this list I sketched a picture a while back of all the planned URIs: http://smethur.st/wp-uploads/2012/07/46159634-wikidata.png Where http://wikidata.org/id/Qetc Was the "thing" uri (which you could point a foaf:PrimaryTopic at) and http://wikidata.org/wiki/Qetc Was the document uri Mainly asking not for the wikipedia > wikidata relationships but wondering if there's a more up to date picture of supported wikidata uri patterns and redirects? Recently I was trying to find a way to programmatically get wikidata uris from wikipedia uris and tried various combinations of: http://wikidata.org/title/enwiki:Berlin http://en.wikidata.org/item/Berlin http://en.wikidata.org/title/Berlin (all mentioned on the list / wiki) but all of them return a 404 Is the a way to do this? Michael On 26/02/2014 19:09, "Dan Brickley" <dan...@danbri.org> wrote: >On 26 February 2014 10:45, Joonas Suominen <joonas.suomi...@wikimedia.fi> >wrote: >> How about using RDFa and foaf:primaryTopic like in this example >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RDFa#XHTML.2BRDFa_1.0_example >> >> 2014-02-26 20:18 GMT+02:00 Paul Houle <ontolo...@gmail.com>: >> >>> Isn't there some way to do this with schema.org? > >The FOAF options were designed for relations between entities and >documents - > >foaf:primaryTopic relates a Document to a thing that the doc is >primarily about (i.e. assumes entity IDs as value, pedantically). > >the inverse, foaf:isPrimaryTopicOf, was designed to allow an entity >description in a random page to anchor itself against well known >pages. In particular we had Wikipedia in mind. > >http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#term_primaryTopic >http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#term_isPrimaryTopicOf > >(Both of these share a classic Semantic Web pickyness about >distinguishing things from pages about those things). > >Much more recently at schema.org we've added a new >property/relationship called http://schema.org/sameAs > >It relates an entity to a reference page (e.g. wikipedia) that can be >used as a kind of proxy identifier for the real world thing that it >describes. Not to be confused with owl:sameAs which is for saying >"here are two ways of identifying the exact same real world entity". > >None of these are a perfect fit for a relationship between a random >Web page and a reference page. But maybe close enough? > >Both FOAF and schema.org are essentially dictionaries of >hopefully-useful terms, so you can use them in HTML head, or body, >according to taste, policy, tooling etc. And you can choose a syntax >(microdata, rdfa, json-ld etc.). > >I'd recommend using the new schema.org 'sameAs', .e.g. in rdfa lite, > ><link href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckingham_Palace"; >property="http://schema.org/sameAs"; /> > >This technically says "the thing we're describing in the current >element is Buckingham_Palace. If you want to be more explicit and say >"this Web page is about a real world Place and that place is >Buckingham_Palace ... you can do this too with a bit more nesting; the >HTML body might be a better place for it. > >Dan > >_______________________________________________ >Wikidata-l mailing list >Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ----------------------------- http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. ----------------------------- _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
