Denny, Yes, yet the timing is good for these great developments you're making with languages in Wikidata4Wiktionary.
Cheers, Scott On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Denny Vrandečić <vrande...@gmail.com> wrote: > Scott, > > I assume you realized that the article by Norvig you cited was rather > intentionally published on April 1st. > > Cheers, > Denny > > On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 11:04 AM Scott MacLeod <worlduniversityandschool@ > gmail.com> wrote: > >> I tried to see how the ISO codes and IANA language subtags compare with >> Glottolog's 8,444 entries under languages (http://glottolog.org/ >> glottolog/language) and Ethnologue's 7,099 living languages ( >> https://www.ethnologue.com/), but couldn't find any comparisons or >> comparative lists. >> >> Will it be possible with these new developments in Wikidata to query for >> these possibilities, and leave the options open for a growing list of >> languages, as well as an universal translator? >> >> And how will invented languages be added, such as Krell, Elvish and >> Klingon (and even other species' languages in emergent interspecies' >> communications), and possibly per OpenNMT (Neural Machine Translation) - >> http://opennmt.net/ (and possibly GNMT); see also Peter Norvig's recent >> article in the regards to OpenNMT and invented languages - >> https://medium.com/@peternorvig/last-tweets-of-the-krell-82b8cb74c320 (and >> per http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2017/04/falco-peregrinus- >> smartphone-that-could.html). >> >> Scott >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Daniel Kinzler < >> daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> wrote: >> >> Am 07.04.2017 um 01:34 schrieb Denny Vrandečić: >> > I foresee that might be a bit of a problem for external tools >> consuming >> > this data - how they would figure out what language it is if it's >> > doesn't have a code? We could of course generate fake codes like >> > mis-x-q12345, maybe that would work. >> > >> > Q-items for languages already have a property to state their language >> code. It's >> > just an extra hop away. >> >> We want ISO codes (or rather, IANA language subtags [1]), so we can use >> them in >> HTML lang attributes, and in RDF literals. This allows interoperability >> with >> standard tools. >> >> For this reason, I also favor a mixed approach, that allows standard >> language >> tags to be used whenever possible. I have some ideas on how that could >> work, but >> no definite plan yet. >> >> Something like de+Q1980305 could work; when generating HTML or RDF, we'd >> just >> drop the suffix. For transligual entries (e.g. the for number symbol i), >> we >> could use e.g. mis+Q1140046. >> >> >> [1] >> https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag- >> registry/language-subtag-registry >> >> -- >> Daniel Kinzler >> Principal Platform Engineer >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland >> Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President >> - World University and School >> - http://worlduniversityandschool.org >> >> - 415 480 4577 <(415)%20480-4577> >> - http://scottmacleod.com >> >> >> - CC World University and School - like CC Wikipedia with best >> STEM-centric CC OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and >> school in California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational >> organization. >> >> >> IMPORTANT NOTICE: This transmission and any attachments are intended only >> for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed and may >> contain information that is privileged, confidential, or exempt from >> disclosure under applicable federal or state laws. 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