Hi, You can already found some information here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikidata#Development_history (including finance details is you follow the sources).
For the "How intertwined is Google", it's a long and complex story, it goes back at least to 2005 (Wikipedia probably wouldn't exist today - or in a drastic different way - if the search engine didn't favour Wikipedia since then). As a non-answer, I would say that Wikidata is as intertwined with Google as any major website is intertwined with Google. Cdlt, ~nicolas Le ven. 20 sept. 2019 à 10:48, Sebastian Hellmann < hellm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> a écrit : > Dear all, > > personally I am quite happy that Denny can contribute more to Wikidata and > Wikipedia. No personal criticism there, I read his thesis and I am > impressed by his work and contributions. > > I don't want to facilitate any conspiracy theories here, but I am > wondering about where Wikidata is going, especially with respect to Google. > > Note that Chrome/Chromium being Open Source with a twist has already > pushed Firefox from the market, but now there is this controversy about > what is being tracked server side by Google Analytics and Client side by > cookies and also the current discussion about Ad Blocker removal from > Chrome: > https://www.wired.com/story/google-chrome-ad-blockers-extensions-api/ > > Maybe somebody could enlighten me about the overall strategy and > connections here. > > 1. there was a Knowledge Engine Project which failed, but in principle had > the right idea: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_Engine_(Wikimedia_Foundation) > > This was aimed to "democratize the discovery of media, news and > information", in particular counter-moving the traffic sink by Google > providing Wikipedia's information in Google Search. Now that there is > Wikidata, this is much better for Google because they can take the CC-0 > data as they wish. > > 2. there are some very widely used terms like "Knowledge Graph" , which > seems to be blocked by Google: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q648625 and > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_Graph without a neutral point of > view like the German WP adopted: > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google#Knowledge_Graph > > 3. I was under the impression that Google bought Freebase and then started > Wikidata as a non-threatening model to the data they have in their > Knowledge Graph > > Could someone give me some pointers about the financial connections of > Google and Wikimedia (this should be transparent, right?) and also who > pushed the Wikidata movement into life in 2012? > > Google was also mentioned in > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/10/30/wikidata-fifth-birthday/ but while > it reads "Freebase <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebase>, was > discontinued because of the superiority of Wikidata’s approach and active > community." I know the story as: Google didn't want its competitors to have > the data and the service. Not much of Freebase did end up in Wikidata. > > As I said, I don't want to push any opinions in any directions. I am more > asking for more information about the connection of Google to Wikidata > (financially), then Google to WMF and also I am asking about any strategic > advantages for Google in relation to their competition. > > Please don't answer with "How great Wikidata is", I already know that and > this is also not in the scope of my "How intertwined is Google with > Wikidata / WMF?" question. Can't mention this enough: also not against > Denny. > It is a request for better information as I can't seem to find clear > answers here. > > -- > All the best, > Sebastian Hellmann > > Director of Knowledge Integration and Linked Data Technologies (KILT) > Competence Center > at the Institute for Applied Informatics (InfAI) at Leipzig University > Executive Director of the DBpedia Association > Projects: http://dbpedia.org, http://nlp2rdf.org, > http://linguistics.okfn.org, https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt > <http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt> > Homepage: http://aksw.org/SebastianHellmann > Research Group: http://aksw.org > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >
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