On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 9:19 PM, <wjhon...@aol.com> wrote: > In a message dated 8/22/2009 12:42:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > carcharot...@googlemail.com writes: > > >> *a département of France >> *a French river >> *a French city >> *the French name for Vienna > > ----------------------------- > > The Council of Vienne. > Also apparently Vienne is a surname, I'm sure we can find SOME obscure > person named Vienne....
There is, as you say, a Council of Vienne: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Vienne That's not strictly disambiguation, as those linking that should link to the whole thing. The organist someone was thinking of is Vierne: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Vierne But there are various other references: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avitus_of_Vienne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_Vienne And more to the point, there is this person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Vienne He is not even that obscure either. Because people are often quoted in books and other sources only by their surname, or initials and surname, it is essential to disambiguate surnames or have a surnames page, so that clinches it. There is also another river called Vienne: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienne_(Normandy) All the above found by using the Wikipedia search function. More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_de_Vienne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desiderius_of_Vienne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girart_de_Vienne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_of_Vienne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christiane_Vienne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Constantine_of_Vienne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ado_of_Vienne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_cruiser_Jean_de_Vienne Note that that last link is something named after the first link. Still more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysius_of_Vienne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamertus_of_Vienne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zachary,_Bishop_of_Vienne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_of_Vienne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_II,_Dauphin_of_Vienne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivier_de_Vienne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cafe_Vienne That last one is an interesting example of the French term for Vienna ending up in common usage in the USA! I suspect people could spend a lifetime disambiguating Wikipedia pages and links. That is if they don't get overwhelmed by the number of French commumes named "XYZ, Vienne"... (I had to scroll through literally hundreds of these, and Christiane Vienne, the admittedly obscure Belgian politician, was on the fifth or sixth page of results). There may even be some French places called Vienne-something, sometimes called Vienne, but that really needs some French person to sort that out. A good tip when disambiguating terms from other languages is to see if the other language encyclopedia has done it already. Et voila: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienne Interesting seeing how they've tackled this. Now I'm off to dump all this on "Vienne (disambiguation)" and then I'll go and moan at WikiProject Disambiguation about how one can't be expected go through all the 500+ links pointing at "Vienne" to see if any should be pointing to the rivers or people or city or the other stuff. Hopefully someone there will give tips on how to filter out the links from templates, otherwise I may just have to link "Vienne" from the templates using some hacked-together redirect, wait for "what links here" to update, and then sort out what is left. Carcharoth _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l