> > > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:12:49 -0400 > From: Marc Riddell <michaeldavi...@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] VIP Treatment > > > >> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:07:03 -0600 (MDT) > >> From: "Fred Bauder" <fredb...@fairpoint.net> > >> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] VIP Treatment > >> > >>> why should they > >>> bother > >>> politely pointing someone to OTRS, much less spend time and effort > trying > >>> to be diplomatic themselves? > >>> > >>> Sxeptomaniac > >> > >> Because they are decent capable people, take pride in doing a good job, > >> and are concerned about the accuracy and reputation of Wikipedia. > >> > >> Fred > >> > on 9/12/12 2:58 PM, Matthew Jacobs at sxeptoman...@gmail.com wrote: > >> > > Oh really? So why do we have to desysop admins? Were they "misusing their > > tools" in a "decent capable" way? Was it part of "doing a good job"? Were > > they desysopped for being "concerned about the accuracy and reputation of > > Wikipedia"? > > > > I can understand if you think I'm overstating the problem, but I find it > > ridiculous that you would deny the obvious: some people are drawn to > > adminship for the wrong reasons, and some maybe even for the right > reasons, > > but choose to act on them in a short-sighted way. No RFA process, no > matter > > how good, will ever be able to fully weed out people who really shouldn't > > be admins. The problem is, WP has no mechanism for dealing with those who > > turn out to not exemplify what an administrator should be, but stop short > > of actually breaking rules. > > > > Sxeptomaniac > > Agreed. But how could such a mechanism be created given the existing > structure of the Project? > > marc Riddell > > I've seen a lot of complicated RfA proposals, as well as community desysop procedures, and I really think the simplest solution would be for Adminship to no longer be a lifetime appointment. Make it for terms of one or two years, with no limit on the number of terms, and no requirement to re-apply. It simply means that admins remain accountable to the community, giving them an incentive to remain polite and fair, to the best of their ability. I don't buy the arguments that "good admins will never be re-appointed", as good admins may make a few enemies, but they'll gain even more supporters. I also believe that the community could easily adapt to manage the increase in RfAs.
To be clear, there is no perfect solution, but I think that instituting admin terms would be a step in the right direction. Unfortunately, I also don't think the community will ever accept such a major change, as it's become far to conservative regarding policy. Sxeptomaniac _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
