The three activities are now moved to the main page. On 5 December 2014 at 14:13, KaewWiki <kaeww...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have posted it in talk page and emailed to the group for discussion. > If there is no objection or additional discussion in the next 7 days, > I'll copy it from talk page to the main page itself. > > On 5 December 2014 at 14:09, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote: >> Can you please include suggested topics in the page as well? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Best, >> Lodewijk >> >> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:22 AM, KaewWiki <kaeww...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I understand that the training is designed to transfer experience from >>> veteran volunteers to newcomers. However, we also have a number of >>> high-impact activities that may be included in the training. >>> >>> 1. How to meet the deadlines/Consequences if deadline is not met This >>> is one of the biggest problem for WLM. >>> 2. More prizes and more professional management This would make our >>> competition more attractive. >>> 3. Pilot WLM in Japan and Australia This two countries had tried to >>> participate but gave up in the middle of the process. We should try to >>> bring them back or let international volunteers help organize it as a >>> pilot activity. Alternatively, put the rest of the world together as >>> if it is one national and find a appropriate eligibility inclusion >>> criteria e.g. photos can be used on a Wikipedia article. >>> >>> >>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Training#High_impact_activities >>> >>> On 30 November 2014 at 22:16, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> >>> wrote: >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > aside from the two or three notes made on the page and this list, and >>> > the >>> > offers to join the meeting - unfortunately there was very little input >>> > on it >>> > so far. I hope this is an indication that everybody is very busy, rather >>> > than uninterested! >>> > >>> > I had some private discussions with folks, and based on that input, I >>> > tried >>> > to push the proposal a bit further. If we want to make this happen, we >>> > need >>> > to do more though! We really need your input, active participation. If >>> > we >>> > can't even manage to make this proposal work, the active training I had >>> > in >>> > mind will most definitely not work out. Just being fair and square: if >>> > we >>> > don't get more participation soon, I will probably have to kill the >>> > idea, >>> > and let it be. Would be sad! >>> > >>> > Looking forward to your input on >>> > >>> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Training >>> > >>> > Lodewijk >>> > >>> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hi all, >>> >> >>> >> This is a quite early stage idea, so please don't shout me down for not >>> >> having specifics yet :) >>> >> >>> >> Looking back at the past few years of Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves >>> >> Earth and now also Wiki Loves Africa (all built upon the same >>> >> philosophy), >>> >> it stroke me that there is so much being learned in different >>> >> countries, but >>> >> that we are not always effectively sharing that among ourselves. Even >>> >> if we >>> >> share, it doesn't seem that the best practices make it actually to the >>> >> implementation - I think there's room for improvement here, and that >>> >> this >>> >> could increase the outcomes (in many different ways) and reduce the >>> >> costs >>> >> (especially in volunteer organizing time). >>> >> >>> >> In the first year that we organized the competition on a global scale, >>> >> we >>> >> had a very effective meeting (May 2011) with a bunch of people from >>> >> countries that indicated they wanted to organize WLM later that year. >>> >> Although much was to be improved, it helped to build an effective >>> >> network of >>> >> people helping each other to organize effective competitions - sharing >>> >> skills, tools and inspiration. The discussions there were in my opinion >>> >> a >>> >> major component in the success of the competitions in 2011 and 2012 (in >>> >> 2012 >>> >> we also had a shorter meeting in Amsterdam). >>> >> >>> >> At the same time we have seen the many challenges to get together an >>> >> effective international team. While I want to applaud the wonderful >>> >> work >>> >> done by volunteers nationally and internationally, I had the impression >>> >> that >>> >> both at Wiki Loves Earth and later at Wiki Loves Monuments, a better >>> >> international coordination could have helped the competition. >>> >> >>> >> I would like you to ponder a bit with me, and think whether it would be >>> >> useful to organize again a training meeting for a variety of organizers >>> >> around the world, where skills and experiences can be transferred, best >>> >> practices can be shared, the network of organizers internationally can >>> >> be >>> >> strengthened and the international coordination can be given a push in >>> >> the >>> >> beginning. >>> >> >>> >> First of all, please think whether this would be a good idea, and if so >>> >> what should be the goals, realistic outcomes and what kind of >>> >> organizers >>> >> should be joining definitely. After that, we can draft up the budget, >>> >> the >>> >> pro's and con's and consider whether this would be a wise investment of >>> >> our >>> >> time and money. Don't worry just yet if it is realistic to request the >>> >> money >>> >> etc - that is a separate discussion. >>> >> >>> >> My initial attitude is positive yet somewhat critical (I know it's >>> >> going >>> >> to be expensive, but I think if there is enough support, it could be >>> >> worth >>> >> it) and I very much look forward to your thoughts. Your input would be >>> >> highly valued on this page on Wikimedia Commons. >>> >> >>> >> Looking forward to your very valuable thoughts, >>> >> >>> >> Lodewijk >>> >> >>> >> PS: I am very happy to help organize such a training to help future >>> >> competitions, but please don't think I will join the international team >>> >> again :) Just want to be realistic. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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