For almost 2 years I was put under intense harassment on English Wikipedia by one the vilest groups that Wikipedia has seen--the EEML,[1] and one of the accusations that was often levelled against me is that I was an agent of the Russian government. And for 2 years the "Community" stood by and did absolutely nothing -- except for blocking me numerous times and eventually indefinitely topic banning me. In fact, the suggestion was even made by a long-standing member of the "Community" that an anonymous tip should be made naming me as a Russian spy.[2]
Such accusations are never acceptable, and Trillium Corsage should be shown the door completely with their backdoor continued accusations which are made without a shred of proof. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:EEML [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Eastern_European_mailing_list/Evidence/Russavia#Discussions_relating_to_stalking.2Fharrassing_myself_in_real_life On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Actually, Trillium Corsage, I'd say that's a reason for banning you again. > It's a very serious allegation you're implying about a longstanding member > of our community. > > Risker > > > On 11 July 2014 14:24, Trillium Corsage <trillium2...@yandex.com> wrote: > > > Hi Fae, > > > > I was banned from the list by Austin Hair. I had contributed in my view a > > lot of good and polite stuff that was reasonably reasoned, but he banned > me > > on the basis of a 17-word parenthetical phrase regarding arbitrator > > Timotheus Canens. I said that I had read it claimed that he was connected > > to Chinese military intelligence. Is that a reason to ban me? I emailed > > him, and then repeat emailed him to talk to me about it. I was met by > > silence. > > > > I wasn't going to get upset about it, and didn't. I figure Austin just > > another type who got moderator privilege on a mailing list. It's not even > > worth it to criticize him, but I guess I'll notice he banned me within > > minutes, and he hasn't posted to the list anything since, and I don't > > recall him ever contributing a email of substantive opinion since I > joined > > the list. > > > > I logged on here today with the aim of unsubscribing to the list, but > I'll > > keep reading long enough to see if your below email asking for > transparency > > on the list goes anywhere. Good luck. > > > > Trillium Corsage > > > > 11.07.2014, 11:28, "Fæ" <fae...@gmail.com>: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I would like to propose that this list have a published process for > > > post moderation, banning and appeals. Perhaps a page on meta would be > > > a good way to propose and discuss a policy? I would be happy to kick > > > off a draft. > > > > > > This list has a defined scope at > > > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l> which > > > explains who the 3 list admins are, but no more than that. There is no > > > system of appeals, no expected time limits on bans or moderation, nor > > > an explanation of the 30 posts per month "behavioural norm" that > > > sometimes applies to this list. Neither is there any explanation of > > > what is expected of list admins, such as whether there is an > > > obligation to explain to someone who finds themselves subject to > > > moderation or a ban, as to why this has happened and what they ought > > > to do in order to become un-banned or un-moderated. > > > > > > I believe this would help list users better understand what is > > > expected of them when they post here and it may give an opportunity to > > > review the transparency of list administration, such as the option of > > > publishing a list of active moderated accounts and possibly a list of > > > indefinitely banned accounts where these were for behaviour on the > > > list (as opposed to content-free spamming etc.) > > > > > > I see no down side to explaining policy as openly as possible. > Thoughts? > > > > > > Fae > > > -- > > > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > > (P.S. I am active on the English Wikipedia where I have a GA on the > > > go, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fae. Sorry to disappoint, > > > but reports of my retirement are premature.) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/guidelineswikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
