On Sat, Jul 12, 2014, Richard Ames <rich...@ames.id.au> wrote: > I think it is very difficult to have hard 'rules'. The guidelines have > been published and are referred to in the footer of each messages sent from > this list..... > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines
Ya, those are far from established or instructive in cases of moderator involvement. I started those[1], and even I don't agree with the current draft. They weren't written for Foundation-l/Wikimedia-l necessarily, originally proposed on a private, now defunct list and edited by a small minority from there. To the best of my recollection, there was no vetting by a larger community at the time. That page had a dedicated section about moderation[2], and suggested practices that were removed all together - with guidelines to warn before any moderator action, along with a recourse in case of disputes. A somewhat similar approach as admin actions. I suppose they could still be used as a starting point, if there is a need to have these written down. -Theo [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mailing_lists/Guidelines&action=history [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mailing_lists/Guidelines&oldid=3544960 > > Regards, Richard. > > > On 11/07/14 20:28, Fæ wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I would like to propose that this list have a published process for >> post moderation, banning and appeals. Perhaps a page on meta would be >> a good way to propose and discuss a policy? I would be happy to kick >> off a draft. >> >> This list has a defined scope at >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l> which >> explains who the 3 list admins are, but no more than that. There is no >> system of appeals, no expected time limits on bans or moderation, nor >> an explanation of the 30 posts per month "behavioural norm" that >> sometimes applies to this list. Neither is there any explanation of >> what is expected of list admins, such as whether there is an >> obligation to explain to someone who finds themselves subject to >> moderation or a ban, as to why this has happened and what they ought >> to do in order to become un-banned or un-moderated. >> >> I believe this would help list users better understand what is >> expected of them when they post here and it may give an opportunity to >> review the transparency of list administration, such as the option of >> publishing a list of active moderated accounts and possibly a list of >> indefinitely banned accounts where these were for behaviour on the >> list (as opposed to content-free spamming etc.) >> >> I see no down side to explaining policy as openly as possible. Thoughts? >> >> Fae >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
