On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Marc A. Pelletier <m...@uberbox.org> wrote:
> On 09/02/2014 01:35 PM, pi zero wrote: > > > (1) It's very easy to use. > > (2) it naturally promotes incremental learning. > > I'm sorry, but both of those assertions are not only wrong, but > profoundly misguided. > At first I thought, well, seems safe to assume /we're/ not going to agree. And of course I still think that. But it sees there may more going on here than a disagreement about the user experience, in that we may have somewhat different understands of what we're talking about. I would be surprised if it represented even a tenth > of a percent of today's Internet users. > This is mostly simple disagreement, but may edge into the second point; my first thought was that you're giving people too little credit... but on second thought, I wonder if you're, more specifically, assigning discredit to people that belongs to accidental characteristics of the interface. And then there's this last bit: The only reason templates were a success[1] is because the original > wikipedian self-selected by their ability to grok and manipulate those > concepts. > > [1] Furthermore, even /whether/ templates were a success is highly > debatable. If I look at the current mess, and the troubles caused by > it, I doubt it. I'd argue that we did great things /despite/ templates > as a mechanism, not because of it. Now, just incidentally, besides skepticism on the point about self-selection, I'm also not altogether convinced it /matters/ either way since the result was hugely successful. But what really gave me mental whiplash was the apparent supposition that someone here thinks templates were a success. I'm satisfied we disagree on the manageability of elementary template syntax, but... templates a success? I'm not sure where we're talking past each other, but it's happening somewhere. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
