Anders, Very ironic to read the word "fraternity" here when we are in the middle of the whole "Inspire campaign" launch, but I assume there are women in that group and they are just "lost in translation"? Jane
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Anders Wennersten <m...@anderswennersten.se> wrote: > Very, very interesting to get a perspective from the biggest, svwp being a > small project. > > You use the word "full member of the community" which I like. I would say > we 45 at svwp could be seen a a fraternity, we know each other rather well. > It will not be possible in the same way if you are 1144, but probably for > the 215 you mention > > The fraternity thinking has now for us also been extended into that no > block for more then a few hours (for cooling off) is allowed for sysops > to set on senior editors. Full members of community will only be blocked > longer then a day after a discussion by its peers . So no admin harassment > allowed when you have come into this level of seniority. (and what the use > of blocking these, they come back anyway, under the same or another nick) > > Anders > > > > > > > > WereSpielChequers skrev den 2015-03-05 13:59: > >> On the English language Wikipedia we definitely have a phenomenon that >> editors with high edit counts will stay until a major event drives them >> away. >> >> But the the threshold may not be 38,000 edits, we have 1,444 editor >> accounts that have achieved that, and that may no longer be enough to >> commit you to the site. >> >> The 14 editors with 500,000 or more edits are all currently active, some >> are still among the most active editors on the site. Though the active >> definition on [[:en:WP:EDITS]] is merely one or more edits in the last 30 >> days. >> >> Of the 215 most active editors, 32 are inactive for various reasons and 7 >> have anonymised themselves on the list of most active editors (though they >> may be active). So 80-85% of our most active editors are still around. >> Possibly more when you allow for the fact that at least one of those 32 has >> closed that account and now edits from another one. >> >> Sadly our admins have not been so likely to stay with us, only 579 are >> still active as admins, though of the 1500 or so former admins quite a few >> still edit. >> >> Of course the length of tenure for both groups is likely to be unusual. >> The vast majority of en wiki admins were appointed more than 7 years ago >> and it takes time to accumulate a really high edit count. Though we have >> fewer editors with over 100,000 edits than we have active admins, at >> current rates that will change in 2016, in recent months we are seeing more >> editors do their 100,000th edit than become admins. I suspect one of our >> problems is that we have fewer ways for newish editors to feel they have >> become an established member of the community. To some extent GLAM, the >> chapters and the education program do this, and of course the good and >> Featured article processes. But we shouldn't be surprised that fewer people >> are staying on after their 100th or 1000th edit, as that is the stage in >> their wiki career where they are likely to think that they will never >> become a full member of the community. >> >> Regards >> >> Jonathan/WereSpielChequers >> >> >> On 4 Mar 2015, at 19:19, wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: >>> >>> Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to >>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> wikimedia-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-l digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> >>> 2. Ciritical level for addiction to Wikipedia (Anders Wennersten) >>> 3. Re: Ciritical level for addiction to Wikipedia (Gerard Meijssen) >>> 5. Re: Ciritical level for addiction to Wikipedia (Ricordisamoa) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2015 17:44:30 +0100 >>> From: Anders Wennersten <m...@anderswennersten.se> >>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >>> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Ciritical level for addiction to Wikipedia >>> Message-ID: <54f7366e.6090...@anderswennersten.se> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >>> >>> On svwp there has over the years been 45 individuals who have each made >>> more then 38000 edits. >>> Of these 45, 44 are still active, only one has left (in 2009) making >>> 97,7 still around. For the users with less then 38 000 edits, only about >>> 6 out of 10 is still active. >>> >>> Is this a global valid number, that when you have made 38000 edits you >>> are fully addicted to Wikipedia ("until death do us part")? >>> >>> >>> Anders >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 18:05:42 +0100 >>> From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> >>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ciritical level for addiction to Wikipedia >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAO53wxX_cbDv7XEMQkV=nWNhr9nk+Y7-f=fj-ovzy2w-k7q...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Hoi, >>> I hope not.. If it were I am a basket case. Hmmm not Wikipedia ... does >>> Wikidata count ? What number of edits would be sufficient ?? >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> On 4 March 2015 at 17:44, Anders Wennersten <m...@anderswennersten.se> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On svwp there has over the years been 45 individuals who have each made >>>> more then 38000 edits. >>>> Of these 45, 44 are still active, only one has left (in 2009) making >>>> 97,7 >>>> still around. For the users with less then 38 000 edits, only about 6 >>>> out >>>> of 10 is still active. >>>> >>>> Is this a global valid number, that when you have made 38000 edits you >>>> are >>>> fully addicted to Wikipedia ("until death do us part")? >>>> >>>> >>>> Anders >>>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2015 18:19:24 +0100 >>> From: Ricordisamoa <ricordisa...@openmailbox.org> >>> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ciritical level for addiction to Wikipedia >>> Message-ID: <54f73e9c.2000...@openmailbox.org> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >>> >>> Il 04/03/2015 17:44, Anders Wennersten ha scritto: >>> >>>> On svwp there has over the years been 45 individuals who have each >>>> made more then 38000 edits. >>>> Of these 45, 44 are still active, only one has left (in 2009) making >>>> 97,7 still around. For the users with less then 38 000 edits, only >>>> about 6 out of 10 is still active. >>>> >>>> Is this a global valid number, that when you have made 38000 edits you >>>> are fully addicted to Wikipedia ("until death do us part")? >>>> >>>> >>>> Anders >>>> >>> I've just exceeded 38000 global edits >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Ricordisamoa>. 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