On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm not American, but the other co-plaintiffs seem to be civil rights /
> human rights organisations who are firmly at the left-wing/progressive end
> of US politics
>

I am an American, and I'm not so sure about that characterization. Here are
the co-plaintiffs:

NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYERS
HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL USA
PEN AMERICAN CENTER
GLOBAL FUND FOR WOMEN
THE NATION MAGAZINE
THE RUTHERFORD INSTITUTE
WASHINGTON OFFICE ON LATIN AMERICA

The one organization that describes itself as "the flagship of the left" is
The Nation magazine; I'm curious why they would be involved, without a
balancing conservative publication. Other than them, these seem like
non-partisan entities. You might describe a couple as left-leaning, but
others might be described as right-leaning.

In American politics, it seems to me that there is a similar (if not
greater) level of mistrust of the NSA and government surveillance among
right wing groups like the Tea Party, as there is among left wing
groups.[1] I think it's safe to say this is an issue that has significant
resonance across the political spectrum, and it would be interesting to
watch any effort to spin it as partisan for one side or the other. I doubt
such an attempt would be successful, but I could be wrong...it would be
interesting to watch it play out.

Speaking for myself, I'm less concerned about public perception of
Wikipedia's brand name on something like this, than success. Will this lead
to better policy? I'd be interested to hear more about the calculations and
predictions that went into it.

I believe people's judgments of Wikipedia, the Wikimedia movement, and the
Wikimedia Foundation will generally be formed on less politically charged
issues. Wikimedia is founded on collaborative practices; I believe the way
we treat stakeholders in the context of our various project-focused
activities, and the quality and reach of the projects themselves, have a
bigger impact on public perception.

If the Wikimedia Foundation gets an apparent "win" here, as it did with
SOPA, there may be some significant upside. If not, I think the only
downside would be expended resources; and (by design), WMF does not have
much accountability for poorly spent resources. So I don't see much of a
practical downside.

Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]]

[1] Lawrence Lessig has had compelling things to say about Occupy
(generally considered left-leaning) and the Tea Party (right wing):
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/19/lawrence-lessig-occupy-tea-party_n_1018844.html
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