Hoi,
The FDC provides recommendations to the WMF Board on the dissemination of
funds.
By adding the extra baggage, you make it a negative. The FDC recommends and
it is responsible for that. The board does not have the bandwidth to do the
work again. It relies on the recommendation and THEREFORE the FDC has an
unenviable job to do.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 26 November 2015 at 16:26, Peter Southwood <peter.southw...@telkomsa.net>
wrote:
> Gerard, They don’t look like weasel words to me. How would you try to
> describe the FDC's role more accurately?
> Cheers,
> P
>
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations
> for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests
>
> Hoi,
> Sorry but "The FDC provides recommendations to the WMF Board, who then
> decide on them. The FDC doesn't handle funds directly, so in no case does
> it withhold, or spend, funds, instead it recommends doing so to the WMF
> Board." qualify as weasel words. You make proposals and hope, expect that
> they will be accepted. Not taking responsibility for your actions and
> blaming them is the same as saying "we are only saying and they were not
> thinking themselves."
>
> Not good, not appreciated.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 25 November 2015 at 15:56, Michael Peel <em...@mikepeel.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi MZMcBride,
> >
> > > The Wikimedia Foundation has a section under "Organisation-specific
> > > remarks", but isn't included in the "Funding recommendations" chart
> > > and there's no amount requested, amount allocated, or proposal
> > > listed for the Wikimedia Foundation. Why is that?
> >
> > They are organisation-specific remarks. :-) The WMF did not apply to
> > the FDC this round, hence why there are no amounts
> > requested/allocated, or a proposal to link to. The FDC felt it
> > necessary to include recommendations about the WMF anyway.
> >
> > > If Wikimedia Deutschland is required to separate out costs for
> > > Wikidata, does that mean that the Wikimedia Foundation is required
> > > to split out costs for Wikipedia and its other projects? I'd be
> > > quite curious to know how much money is being spent by the Wikimedia
> > > Foundation on Wiktionary
> > or
> > > Wikinews or Wikiversity.
> >
> > It's worth noting that there are two meanings to the word 'project'
> > here - there are the Wikimedia projects, and then there are projects
> > run by the Wikimedia organisations (think of, e.g., GLAM or education
> > projects). It's particularly the latter case that is most relevant to
> > the FDC's work, and in this case Wikidata falls under both meanings.
> >
> > > The report includes this note:
> > >> The FDC is appalled by the closed way that the WMF has undertaken
> > >> both strategic and annual planning, and the WMF’s approach to
> > >> budget transparency (or lack thereof).
> > >
> > > Sort of inline with the first question, but perhaps more direct:
> > > what power does the Funds Dissemination Committee have over the
> > > amount of
> > donor
> > > money allocated toward the Wikimedia Foundation? Can the FDC only
> > admonish
> > > the organization, but not actually withhold funds?
> >
> >
> > The FDC provides recommendations to the WMF Board, who then decide on
> > them. The FDC doesn't handle funds directly, so in no case does it
> > withhold, or spend, funds, instead it recommends doing so to the WMF
> Board.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
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