Hoi,
Some explanations simply read as weasel words. Nothing was lost in
translation. You either have an opinion and you accept that people consider
responsibility part of the parcel or you do not and that is in my opinion
worse. It is not so bad to be wrong, it happens. It is worse to refuse to
accept responsibility.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 26 November 2015 at 12:23, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, this was a simple explanation of the facts of the limited authority of
> the FDC, not an attempt to weasel.
>
> Perhaps something was lost in translation?
>
> Fae
> On 26 Nov 2015 10:58, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > Sorry but "The FDC provides recommendations to the WMF Board, who then
> > decide on them. The FDC doesn't handle funds directly, so in no case does
> > it withhold, or spend, funds, instead it recommends doing so to the WMF
> > Board." qualify as weasel words. You make proposals and hope, expect that
> > they will be accepted. Not taking responsibility for your actions and
> > blaming them is the same as saying "we are only saying and they were not
> > thinking themselves."
> >
> > Not good, not appreciated.
> > Thanks,
> > GerardM
> >
> > On 25 November 2015 at 15:56, Michael Peel <em...@mikepeel.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi MZMcBride,
> > >
> > > > The Wikimedia Foundation has a section under "Organisation-specific
> > > > remarks", but isn't included in the "Funding recommendations" chart
> and
> > > > there's no amount requested, amount allocated, or proposal listed for
> > the
> > > > Wikimedia Foundation. Why is that?
> > >
> > > They are organisation-specific remarks. :-) The WMF did not apply to
> the
> > > FDC this round, hence why there are no amounts requested/allocated, or
> a
> > > proposal to link to. The FDC felt it necessary to include
> recommendations
> > > about the WMF anyway.
> > >
> > > > If Wikimedia Deutschland is required to separate out costs for
> > Wikidata,
> > > > does that mean that the Wikimedia Foundation is required to split out
> > > > costs for Wikipedia and its other projects? I'd be quite curious to
> > know
> > > > how much money is being spent by the Wikimedia Foundation on
> Wiktionary
> > > or
> > > > Wikinews or Wikiversity.
> > >
> > > It's worth noting that there are two meanings to the word 'project'
> here
> > -
> > > there are the Wikimedia projects, and then there are projects run by
> the
> > > Wikimedia organisations (think of, e.g., GLAM or education projects).
> > It's
> > > particularly the latter case that is most relevant to the FDC's work,
> and
> > > in this case Wikidata falls under both meanings.
> > >
> > > > The report includes this note:
> > > >> The FDC is appalled by the closed way that the WMF has undertaken
> both
> > > >> strategic and annual planning, and the WMF’s approach to budget
> > > >> transparency (or lack thereof).
> > > >
> > > > Sort of inline with the first question, but perhaps more direct: what
> > > > power does the Funds Dissemination Committee have over the amount of
> > > donor
> > > > money allocated toward the Wikimedia Foundation? Can the FDC only
> > > admonish
> > > > the organization, but not actually withhold funds?
> > >
> > >
> > > The FDC provides recommendations to the WMF Board, who then decide on
> > > them. The FDC doesn't handle funds directly, so in no case does it
> > > withhold, or spend, funds, instead it recommends doing so to the WMF
> > Board.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mike
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