Thanks for your thoughts Dariusz. It seems there is no WMF board commitment to a single measurable action as a result of this badly handled incident.
I hope for a bit more than a classic "moving forward" message without learning anything new. The unelected are entrenched and deaf to volunteer dissatisfaction with their behaviour. Fae On 2 Jan 2016 11:08, "Dariusz Jemielniak" <dar...@alk.edu.pl> wrote: > Hi there, > > I wanted to send a note to all of you, that shares my perspective on the > recent Board decision. These are my own thoughts, as a community-selected > Board member who voted in the minority for the recent resolution. However, > I also want to be clear that I support the outcome and the majority > decision, and look forward to a new community Trustee. I hope that, even > though you may continue to have questions, you will too. > > From my own perspective, the issue of "trust" had nothing to do with James’ > personal integrity. The Board however must ensure that members follow their > duties and obligations in their roles as Trustees. My personal (not > organizational) trust in James is 100%, in the sense that I would buy a car > from him, and leave him the keys to my house without hesitation. James is > an exceptional individual and an amazing Wikipedian. I feel privileged to > know him. > > Yet, when governance is involved, things work out a bit differently. I can > explain to you how I understand the results of the vote. I myself > considered voting in favor of the resolution. I also believe that others > reasonably considered their vote. James himself recognized his errors and > admitted that he made mistakes and stepped out of process for a Board > member. Our collective decision was carefully thought through. I also > understand well the reasons of many Board members who voted as they did. > > I do want to comment on one point very important to me: This decision does > not signal a shift on the Board’s attitude towards community > representation, and does not alter our commitment to an active role for the > community representatives on the Board. I also want to be clear that the > Board decision was not based on a difference of opinion about direction or > strategy. > > At this stage, I think we basically need to move on. The Board is committed > to community-nominated membership, and we are actively working with the > most recent Election Committee on a plan to fill the open > community-selected seat . We expect James to stay in the movement and > continue to do the amazing things he is well known for. Until recently, I > was also a member of the community, watching the Board’s decisions. I > understand the desire to have more details. At the same time, I genuinely > ask for you to assume good faith from the Board. > > I do, however, agree that the Foundation and the Board can be better at > communicating, and be more open. While we're not there yet, I am optimistic > about the direction of the change, and I know that 2016 will bring more > open community discussions around both strategy and our annual planning in > consultation with the movement. > > I join my colleagues in wishing my friend, James, the absolute best in his > next ventures. I am excited that he plans to remain an active member of our > movement, and I look forward to seeing him on-wiki and at community > gatherings. > > Best, > > Dariusz a.k.a. pundit > 02.01.2016 6:44 AM "Kevin Gorman" <kgor...@gmail.com> napisał(a): > > > Hi all - > > > > Just to be clear, none of my previous posts were meant to suggest that > the > > sky was falling - just that from the information that has been made > public > > and am aware of, choosing to remove James from the board certainly wasn't > > legally necessary, and that there's a good chance it wasn't in the > > interests of the movement to remove him, and that it should probably be > > examined publicly whether or not it was a good or necessary idea. I'm > not > > calling for anyone's heads even if a mistake was made; I know and respect > > many of the board as well, and don't doubt their devotion to Wikimedia - > I > > just question if a mistake was made, and think that we should be > > transparent enough as a movement to figure out a mistake was made in a > > transparent fashion. If a mistake was made, then it would be a good idea > > to examine both procedures around the removal of board members, and also, > > potentially to ensure that the idea of transparency believed in by the > > Board is the same as the idea of transparency believed in by much of the > > rest of the movement. We've already learned one valuable lesson from > this: > > Board should probably consult with comms before holding a meeting likely > > to generate controversy, even if that decision isn't 100% yet. > > > > Best, > > KG > > > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 2:03 AM, Anders Wennersten < > > m...@anderswennersten.se> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Den 2016-01-02 kl. 10:44, skrev Yaroslav M. Blanter: > > > > > >> > > >> This is an interesting theoretical discussion, and I criticized WMF in > > >> the past on a number of occasions, but I feel necessary to emphasize > > that > > >> there is not a slightest indication at this time that they do not care > > >> about retaining the community. At most, we have indications that they > > did > > >> not handle some issues in sub-optimal way. The probability that > > Wikipedia > > >> and sister projects will collapse in say ten years because some novel > > >> technical means become available and we do not manage to respond > > properly > > >> is in my opinion a billion times higher than that we will collapse > > because > > >> BoT or WMF staff function sub-optimally in their daily communications > > with > > >> the community. Let us discuss real things and not what happens if > > Martians > > >> come to enslave us. > > >> > > >> Cheers > > >> Yaroslav > > >> > > >> > > > I agree and I also think we should not over dramatize that someone is > at > > > odds with a group and leave the group (by resignation or by forced > > leaving). > > > > > > I have myself been part of numerous groups in my life, probably several > > > hundreds, and have left in being at odds with the group/employer > almost a > > > dozen times. A very few times by being sacked or ousted and mostly with > > me > > > resigning, but then feeling I have had very sound reasons for taking my > > > position making me becoming at odds with the rest. > > > > > > But in no case after the resignation has been a fact, have I continued > to > > > dwell publicly over it. A fact is a fact and it is better to go on with > > > life for all parties (and it is enough my loyal wife has had to hear > "my > > > side of it") . > > > > > > In this case I know first hand a majority of the Board and I know them > to > > > be true to the values and belief of the movement, and as individuals > > being > > > caring, and the opposite to my most hated disliked personality, power > > > hungry persons without empathy. > > > > > > Anders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
