(I should clarify I don't think the pledge is necessarily wrong; it reads to me like a straightforward affirmation of the conflict of interest policy and I think it can't really be blamed for a notion of siding against the community. But if it's confusing, maybe let's consider clarifying.)
-- brion On Feb 25, 2016 7:54 AM, "Brion Vibber" <bvib...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Feb 25, 2016 6:55 AM, "Andrea Zanni" <zanni.andre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:48 PM, Brion Vibber <bvib...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > > > > What I will disagree on is with the notion that the board has to take > the > > > org's side against the movement by definition. It is my understanding > that > > > the board has the role of oversight of the org -- that is, it's the > board's > > > job to ensure that the Foundation is effectively accomplishing the > goals it > > > was created to perform. > > > > > > > As much as I agree with Brion, > > probably Denny's message is telling us a lot. > > I haven't read carefully the WMF Board Pledge of personal commitment, but > > this is not the first time this issue is discussed: see for example > > Cristian mail, two months ago, tackling the very specific thing. [1] > > One thing we should do is ensure that the legal obligations of a trustee > of a Florida not for profit corporation are not conflated with an > arbitrarily-written 'pledge of personal commitment' (or, to be sure, our > own preferences). > > If the pledge is poorly worded or just wrong, it should be corrected. > > (IANAL, so I'll leave further talk of legal obligations to those more > familiar with the topic.) > > -- brion > > > > > Maybe the Board "feels" a lot of pressure about this, and this is a > problem > > on itself. > > We all know that "toxicity" of an environment doesn't need laws or > written > > rules, but people being people, social pressure, etc. > > If Board members feels without power, bound to the WMF and not the > > Movement, that's a real problem we need to look into. > > > > Aubrey > > > > [1] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2015-December/080600.html > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
