AffCom has nothing to do with this kind of issue, most of projects have no arbcoms, Finally, anyone would appeal, turning WMF-issued ban into a [how to call this group?]-issued ban.
Vito 2017-02-18 15:05 GMT+01:00 Olatunde Isaac <reachout2is...@gmail.com>: > Gnangarra raised some valid and interesting points here. Well, I don't > have problems with WMF banning anyone from Wikimedia projects as long as > there is a significant reason to do so and through a transparent process. > Nonetheless, I think WMF ban should be revocable following a successful > appeal. They could set up a form of appeal committee comprises of WMF Staff > (maybe those from WMF legal team), AffCom member, and member of ARBCOM from > the project where the incident occur as suggested by Gnangarra above. > > Best, > > Isaac > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> > Sender: "Wikimedia-l" <wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org>Date: Sat, > 18 Feb 2017 21:20:16 > To: Wikimedia Mailing List<wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF advanced permissions for employees > > what this discussion reveals is that; > > 1. the people here want to know who at the WMF has what permissions, and > a when why they were granted > 2. they want a system thats has good checks and balances, > 3. there is want to be able to be "consulted' during the process of > Global bans. > > > - Number 1 is just a maintenance issue, an on Meta(maybe Foundation > wiki) table of employee access would be the simplest to operate and > solve > rather than using a google spread sheet with a bot updating the on Meta. > - the process described by James Alexander appears to meet that, though > the duel role currently occurring isnt an ideal long term outlook > - Create a High Court, or Supreme court type appeal process where the > person affected can email the committee for a review. The committee > could > be comprise of WMF Legal person, Affiliate representatives(appropriate > language speaker), and bureaucrats(ARBCOM member) from the project where > the person was active or the event took place. With an after action > appeal > it doesnt impinge on any potential urgency or immediate imperative. It > could even allow for the person affected to have someone advocate on > their > behalf. > > > On 18 February 2017 at 19:59, Tim Landscheidt <t...@tim-landscheidt.de> > wrote: > > > Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hoi, > > > The problem with law enforcement is that it operaties nationally. It is > > not > > > obvious where people are and consequently it is not obvious what > > > jurisdiction is appropriate. > > > > > […] > > > > That's easy: The victim's. > > > > Tim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > -- > GN. > President Wikimedia Australia > WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra > Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
