On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Anna, > > >> * How much is this timeline extension projected to cost, and from what > >> source are the funds being drawn? (Note that this doesn't assume that > the > >> decision was a bad one, but I very much want to know the source of the > >> funds and how much is likely to be drawn from it.) > > > > > >We've got this covered, Pine. We are fiscally managing this process and > all > >of our contracts well. Thank you for your concern. > > Please answer my question: how much is this timeline extension projected to > cost, > and from what source are the funds being drawn? > > > >> * Could you elaborate on the benefits of this timetable change for > people > >> who are not involved with affiliates? We've seen some responses from > >> Strainu and Yaroslov (thank you both!) and I would like to hear WMF's > >> perspective. > >> > > > The benefits of the change in the timetable are that 4/4 stakeholder > groups > > told us that this was a meaningful exercise, that they are earnestly > > engaged in thinking about the future, and that they need more time for > > translation and conversation on this important subject. 3/4 tracks are > non > > affiliates (on-wiki, new voices, experts). > > > We agreed with them. These are meaningful conversations. We are learning > a > > lot and we need to hear what people have to say and they need more time > to > > say it. > > OK, that makes sense. > > > > > * Could you also discuss what measures are being taken to control costs > in > > the strategy process? > > > > > We have plenty of measures in place to monitor costs (e.g., we don't need > > to control them because they are not out of control, we are within our > > budget). Also, describing financial metrics at any lower level of detail > > would be a waste of the strategy budget since we are within it. > > I disagree with that assessment. Simply because expenses are within > budget don't mean that all expenses which were charged to the budget > are reasonable and accurate, and I am disappointed to hear that WMF's > standards for its finances are so lax. WMF's standards are not lax. Far from it. > This convinces me all the more > that my original request is important for WMF to answer: please discuss > what measures are being taken to control costs in the strategy process. > The level of detail that I now think WMF should provide is much higher > than the level of detail with which I previously would have been satisfied. > My level of concern here is high enough that I am asking the WMF > Audit Committee chair, Kelly, to comment on this situation. Something > seems very wrong here, and I am concerned about WMF's financial integrity. > > Pine > > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Anna Stillwell <astillw...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > > Hello Pine, > > > > Good evening. In line. > > > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 7:40 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > This thread is going in many directions, and I'm enjoying reading the > > > conversation. > > > > > > If I may go back to some questions that I asked in my earlier post, I > > would > > > like to hear from Katherine (or someone else at WMF, perhaps Anna): > > > > > > > First, some context... a good deal of this has been iterative by design. > We > > had an overarching idea of where we were headed (e.g. a shared direction > > first, roles and responsibilities second), but then we knew we would > learn > > to refine or course correct based on what we hear. > > > > We've been hearing to extend the timeline on all fronts--organized groups > > and affiliates (e.g., time for conversation), on wiki (e.g., time for > > translation and conversation) and new voices and experts (e.g., "we've > seen > > all of the data but our communities have yet to see and reflect upon > > it")... so that is the background reasoning. > > > > > > > * How much is this timeline extension projected to cost, and from what > > > source are the funds being drawn? (Note that this doesn't assume that > the > > > decision was a bad one, but I very much want to know the source of the > > > funds and how much is likely to be drawn from it.) > > > > > > > We've got this covered, Pine. We are fiscally managing this process and > all > > of our contracts well. Thank you for your concern. > > > > > > > * Could you elaborate on the benefits of this timetable change for > people > > > who are not involved with affiliates? We've seen some responses from > > > Strainu and Yaroslov (thank you both!) and I would like to hear WMF's > > > perspective. > > > > > > > The benefits of the change in the timetable are that 4/4 stakeholder > groups > > told us that this was a meaningful exercise, that they are earnestly > > engaged in thinking about the future, and that they need more time for > > translation and conversation on this important subject. 3/4 tracks are > non > > affiliates (on-wiki, new voices, experts). > > > > We agreed with them. These are meaningful conversations. We are learning > a > > lot and we need to hear what people have to say and they need more time > to > > say it. > > > > > > > > * Could you also discuss what measures are being taken to control costs > > in > > > the strategy process? > > > > > > > We have plenty of measures in place to monitor costs (e.g., we don't need > > to control them because they are not out of control, we are within our > > budget). Also, describing financial metrics at any lower level of detail > > would be a waste of the strategy budget since we are within it. > > > > Always good to hear from you, > > /a > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Pine > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
