I think the situation is pretty clear, and we have already many statements exactly about this point. The dissenters are being, and will continue being simply ignored.
Cheers Yaroslav On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry Nicole, what you have written is ambiguous. Will all affiliates and > individual volunteers be able to be full participants in later discussion > on the strategy, to exactly the same level as those that endorsed phase > one? > > Saying that nobody gets "banned" does not ensure an open process. I.e. that > those not in the "club" will have the same access privileges or will not be > simply ignored as "non-U". > > Thanks > Fae > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LGBT+ > http://telegram.me/wmlgbt > > On 27 Oct 2017 09:50, "Nicole Ebber" <nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > > Hi all, > > By endorsing, people and organizations state that they agree that the > direction is the right way for us as a movement to move forward, and > that they commit to participate in phase 2 conversations in good > faith. And in phase 2, we will discuss how to fill this direction with > life. The next steps will will be designed as an inclusive process, > but we won't "oblige" anyone to contribute to phase 2, nor will we > "ban" people from it. A look into our FAQ can further clarify: > > "How you use the outcomes of this discussion is up to you. Some > individuals or organizations may use it to inform programmatic or > organizational strategy. Others may see it as a way to connect with > the broader movement and invite others to contribute to Wikimedia. > Some may not use it at all – and that’s okay! > > Practically, this does not mean that volunteers will be more > restricted in what activities they develop or engage in. Volunteers > will remain free to engage in activities that interest them and they > believe will most benefit Wikimedia and the world." > (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ > movement/2017/Frequently_asked_questions#How_will_this_ > impact_me_or_my_organization.3F) > > Hope that helps, > Nicole > > On 27 October 2017 at 10:21, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote: > > I'm not sure how I missed that strongarm-statement ("the endorsement is > > also a necessary step in order to participate in phase 2 discussions"). > I'm > > confident that this is a typo of a kind. It does not match with how I > know > > the people in charge of this process. > > > > Lodewijk > > > > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 12:51 AM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On 26 Oct 2017 09:00, "Nicole Ebber" <nicole.eb...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > >> > >> Dear Wikimedians, > >> > >> Today marks the final milestone of phase 1 of our movement strategy > >> process. Over the past eight months, many of you, of your peers, > >> colleagues, partners and friends have contributed to an endeavor that > >> resulted in the new Strategic Direction of the Wikimedia movement. > >> > >> This direction provides us with an answer to the question: What do we > >> want to build and achieve as a movement over the next 10–15 years: By > >> 2030, Wikimedia will become the essential infrastructure of the > >> ecosystem of free knowledge, and anyone who shares our vision will be > >> able to join us.[1] > >> > >> On behalf of the strategy team, it’s with great pleasure that I invite > >> you today to declare your intent to work together towards this future. > >> Organized groups as well as individual contributors of our movement > >> are invited to endorse the Strategic Direction by adding their > >> signature to the endorsement page on Meta-Wiki. You will find all > >> necessary instructions there.[2] > >> > >> By endorsing the Strategic Direction, you are not necessarily agreeing > >> with every single outcome of the first phase. Endorsing means that you > >> commit to participating in the next phase of this discussion in good > >> faith and to help define, by Wikimania 2018, how to come to an > >> agreement on roles, responsibilities, and organizational strategies > >> that enable us to implement that future. > >> > >> In addition to signing the meta page, you are all welcome to use the > >> #wikimedia2030 hashtag on social media to celebrate and share your > >> excitement with the world and encourage other Wikimedians to show > >> their support, too. > >> > >> Ideally, please leave questions or remarks on the talk page, to make > >> it easier to follow-up in a structured way. > >> > >> Thank you! > >> Nicole > >> > >> > >> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ > >> movement/2017/Direction#Our_strategic_direction:_Service_and_Equity > >> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ > >> movement/2017/Direction/Endorsement > >> > >> -- > >> Nicole Ebber > >> Adviser International Relations > >> Movement Strategy Track Lead: Organized Groups > >> > >> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. > >> V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts > >> Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig > >> anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, > >> Steuernummer 27/029/42207. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately > >> directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia > >> community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > >> _______________________________________________ > >> WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list > >> wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l > >> > >> > >> Could Nicole, or someone else who is acting for the WMF, rephrase > "Please > >> note that the strategic direction will not be renegotiated, and *the > >> endorsement is also a necessary step in order to participate in phase 2 > >> discussions*." This needs clarification to ensure that the same values > of > >> transparency and openness declared in the Movement Strategy applies to > its > >> own process. > >> > >> As currently worded, no afflilate that is committed to openness should > >> endorse the document, as it appears to create a closed club that > >> deliberately excludes all possible critical future voices. Whatever that > >> is, it is not the Wikimedia Community. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Fae > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > -- > Nicole Ebber > Adviser International Relations > Movement Strategy Track Lead: Organized Groups > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. > V. 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